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Mysteries and Cryptozoology

Netherlands peter Offline
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( This post was last modified: 08-23-2018, 06:12 AM by peter )


When talking about 'unexplained phenomena', many think of unindentified flying objects and things like that. Interesting stuff, but there's no need to leave our planet to find and discuss phenomena outside our range of vision. In this thread, you can post information about unexplained phenomena in which animals feature. Animals, not humans. 

In the days of the British Raj, hunters saw things they had never seen before. The books they published often met with sceptical reviews, but many of the events they witnessed were later confirmed by biologists.

In Africa, leopards interested in baboons developed a strategy that paid. Some specialists still use psychological warfare to create confusion. Lions interested in cattle protected by a 'kraal' also use psychological warfare to create confusion.

Roaring no doubt has an effect. Some animals seem almost paralysed when a big cat roars when attacking. Animals, like humans, can die of fear, but 12 monkeys dying of a heart attack at the same time in the same place? Seems a bit over the top. But it happened and an autopsy confirmed the cause of death:
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Switzerland Spalea Offline
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About #1: I believed that roaring would effectively have an effect toward domestic animals (for example in the case of the domestic cattle paralysed by lions' roaring you quoted and during the ancient times of the Africa colonization, numerous accounts produced by settlers) but not toward wild animals.

However, I have always quoted that the leopards using this strategy in order to attack some baboons also take advantage of the night. The fact is the baboons much more fear the leopard at night than during the day.

The Dailymail doesn't precize if the simultaneous 12 monkeys' death caused by the tiger's roar occured at night. It would be interesting to know it.

The fact is: when a tiger in marauding into the India jungle he is constantly followed by the monkeys' crys and screams which report his presence. Perhaps, in this case indicated by the Dailymail, during the night the monkeys being this time unaware of the tiger's presence were suddenly suprised by the roaring which, so, shocked them to death.

Personal hypothesis...
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United Kingdom Sully Offline
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Would not be surprised 

"When the tiger stalks the jungle like the lowering clouds of a thunderstorm, the leopard moves as silently as mist drifting on a dawn wind." -Indian proverb
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Netherlands peter Offline
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Interesting read:

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( This post was last modified: 08-23-2018, 06:47 AM by peter )


Sam Ellis is a cameraman. Some years ago, he wanted to capture a hunt of a wild Canadian lynx. His attempts to get close to a wild lynx all but failed. One day, his luck changed. One lynx known as 'Mad Max' was different from the others in that he, in the end, decided to show himself to Sam. Over time, a unique bond developed. My guess is 'Mad Max' realized that Sam wasn't dangerous. I also think he used him. 

I remember a documentary about pumas in South America. Could have been Argentina. Over time, the cameraman developed a kind of bond with a wild puma. That female, 'Penny', gradually lost her fear. The bond resulted in a very interesting document. 

In Argentina, pumas are hunted. For this reason, they fear humans. Same for 'Penny'. When she realized that the cameraman wasn't dangerous but, instead, contributed to her safety, she gradually lost her fear. 

Why is it that some wild carnivores lose their fear of humans, whereas others do not? Species related? Individuality? And who is using who?

Anyhow. Here's the link to the video:

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