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Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers

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(11-04-2022, 03:24 AM)Pckts Wrote:
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(10-31-2022, 08:09 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoSrVVnDNE , its on video , weighted 230kg after medical check up . https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city...905866.cms ,  they might release the report in public too .

It's the same as the article, both published by TOI. It's just the article "made for tv" version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umNnz0nl2ns see this .

"Video clip" anonymous
This is a reporter relaying the same story. 
DB Tech and Travel has nothing to do with the capture.
You need verifiable sources who actually participated in the capture and alleged measuring. Forest Department, Vet, Capture team, etc.

lol , looks like alok pathak is not on social media , okk you should visit satpura to see it , if its bigger than matka then its 230kg .
Pathak never stated his size, did he? 
You’re confusing the article with actual quotes from a person. 
And why would you think Matka is close to that size?

naah i don't think they will quote a fake figure its most likely forest team  told them , 230kg is possible  and not a very high figure , if girth is 134-136cm then it must be like that ,even if it ate the bait goat then it would be like 220-223 kg empty . on hotstar there is a documentary on matka  in which it being said matka is a 500lbs tiger . thats a estimate ,i think matka could be 220 becoz he is bigger than gabbar ,see both gabbar and matka with maya . gabbar weighted 185kg in summer in bad shape , in peak condition gabbar must be like 200-210kg .

Of course they do, they do it all the time. TOI is known to do that. 
Again, quoting media outlets estimates mean nothing. Matka is small, who knows if he was bigger than Gabbar or not, but regardless he's a small male. The idea that Gabbar must be 200-210 isn't factual, he was weighed in a healthy condition and his weight was his weight.
well if u see both gabbar and matka with maaya u would know this , matka is noticebly bigger .its not rocket science here , people can easily found it  there are videos of gabbar and matka with maya . gabbar was collared after he fought matka and in summer . here is gabbar immediately few days after collaring

These are baseless claims. Would you say Matka was larger than Katezari or Saturn, Matkasurs father?
Because Gabbar fought both and was close in size to both. Gabbar was also a more muscular Tiger in comparison. Matka is small, he’s not big framed but he was bulky in his prime. He’s not going to dwarf Gabbar by any stretch. Gabbar also gave Matka his busted nose when they used to call Matkasur, Pandu. Gabbar mated with Maya after his win. 

I’m regards to your claim that 220kg is easily obtained by a male Tiger, that’s not the case. If you’re talking about Empty then that’s really not the case. And with Matkasurs small stature I’d say it’s very likely he was around 200kg at best, especially without a full belly.

matka beat him back  , gabbar never came back again.
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(11-04-2022, 10:56 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-04-2022, 03:24 AM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-04-2022, 01:09 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-03-2022, 10:07 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 08:32 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 08:02 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 11:13 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 03:09 AM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 03:04 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(10-31-2022, 09:25 PM)Pckts Wrote: It's the same as the article, both published by TOI. It's just the article "made for tv" version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umNnz0nl2ns see this .

"Video clip" anonymous
This is a reporter relaying the same story. 
DB Tech and Travel has nothing to do with the capture.
You need verifiable sources who actually participated in the capture and alleged measuring. Forest Department, Vet, Capture team, etc.

lol , looks like alok pathak is not on social media , okk you should visit satpura to see it , if its bigger than matka then its 230kg .
Pathak never stated his size, did he? 
You’re confusing the article with actual quotes from a person. 
And why would you think Matka is close to that size?

naah i don't think they will quote a fake figure its most likely forest team  told them , 230kg is possible  and not a very high figure , if girth is 134-136cm then it must be like that ,even if it ate the bait goat then it would be like 220-223 kg empty . on hotstar there is a documentary on matka  in which it being said matka is a 500lbs tiger . thats a estimate ,i think matka could be 220 becoz he is bigger than gabbar ,see both gabbar and matka with maya . gabbar weighted 185kg in summer in bad shape , in peak condition gabbar must be like 200-210kg .

Of course they do, they do it all the time. TOI is known to do that. 
Again, quoting media outlets estimates mean nothing. Matka is small, who knows if he was bigger than Gabbar or not, but regardless he's a small male. The idea that Gabbar must be 200-210 isn't factual, he was weighed in a healthy condition and his weight was his weight.
well if u see both gabbar and matka with maaya u would know this , matka is noticebly bigger .its not rocket science here , people can easily found it  there are videos of gabbar and matka with maya . gabbar was collared after he fought matka and in summer . here is gabbar immediately few days after collaring

These are baseless claims. Would you say Matka was larger than Katezari or Saturn, Matkasurs father?
Because Gabbar fought both and was close in size to both. Gabbar was also a more muscular Tiger in comparison. Matka is small, he’s not big framed but he was bulky in his prime. He’s not going to dwarf Gabbar by any stretch. Gabbar also gave Matka his busted nose when they used to call Matkasur, Pandu. Gabbar mated with Maya after his win. 

I’m regards to your claim that 220kg is easily obtained by a male Tiger, that’s not the case. If you’re talking about Empty then that’s really not the case. And with Matkasurs small stature I’d say it’s very likely he was around 200kg at best, especially without a full belly.

matka beat him back  , gabbar never came back again.

they had 3 prominent rounds with each other, Matkasur originally took charge from him. Summer 2016, Gabbar came back and won round 2 but he lasted until Aug 2016 and was defeated for good. he was never seen again after this. Matkasur later went on to rule all of the former areas previously ruled by Namdev, Katezari and Gabbar.
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(11-04-2022, 11:07 AM)Roflcopters Wrote:
(11-04-2022, 10:56 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-04-2022, 03:24 AM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-04-2022, 01:09 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-03-2022, 10:07 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 08:32 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 08:02 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 11:13 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 03:09 AM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-02-2022, 03:04 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umNnz0nl2ns see this .

"Video clip" anonymous
This is a reporter relaying the same story. 
DB Tech and Travel has nothing to do with the capture.
You need verifiable sources who actually participated in the capture and alleged measuring. Forest Department, Vet, Capture team, etc.

lol , looks like alok pathak is not on social media , okk you should visit satpura to see it , if its bigger than matka then its 230kg .
Pathak never stated his size, did he? 
You’re confusing the article with actual quotes from a person. 
And why would you think Matka is close to that size?

naah i don't think they will quote a fake figure its most likely forest team  told them , 230kg is possible  and not a very high figure , if girth is 134-136cm then it must be like that ,even if it ate the bait goat then it would be like 220-223 kg empty . on hotstar there is a documentary on matka  in which it being said matka is a 500lbs tiger . thats a estimate ,i think matka could be 220 becoz he is bigger than gabbar ,see both gabbar and matka with maya . gabbar weighted 185kg in summer in bad shape , in peak condition gabbar must be like 200-210kg .

Of course they do, they do it all the time. TOI is known to do that. 
Again, quoting media outlets estimates mean nothing. Matka is small, who knows if he was bigger than Gabbar or not, but regardless he's a small male. The idea that Gabbar must be 200-210 isn't factual, he was weighed in a healthy condition and his weight was his weight.
well if u see both gabbar and matka with maaya u would know this , matka is noticebly bigger .its not rocket science here , people can easily found it  there are videos of gabbar and matka with maya . gabbar was collared after he fought matka and in summer . here is gabbar immediately few days after collaring

These are baseless claims. Would you say Matka was larger than Katezari or Saturn, Matkasurs father?
Because Gabbar fought both and was close in size to both. Gabbar was also a more muscular Tiger in comparison. Matka is small, he’s not big framed but he was bulky in his prime. He’s not going to dwarf Gabbar by any stretch. Gabbar also gave Matka his busted nose when they used to call Matkasur, Pandu. Gabbar mated with Maya after his win. 

I’m regards to your claim that 220kg is easily obtained by a male Tiger, that’s not the case. If you’re talking about Empty then that’s really not the case. And with Matkasurs small stature I’d say it’s very likely he was around 200kg at best, especially without a full belly.

matka beat him back  , gabbar never came back again.

they had 3 prominent rounds with each other, Matkasur originally took charge from him. Summer 2016, Gabbar came back and won round 2 but he lasted until Aug 2016 and was defeated for good. he was never seen again after this. Matkasur later went on to rule all of the former areas previously ruled by Namdev, Katezari and Gabbar.

also t120  has fought t101 and pushed him but got injured and is said to be treated by  ranthambhore authorities around 4-6 months ago .
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Hope this clears the confusion regarding body mass of the male recently shifted to Satpura TR. Looks like TOI even quoted the estimated weight wrong in their article.



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(11-06-2022, 12:14 PM)Jerricson Wrote: Hope this clears the confusion regarding body mass of the male recently shifted to Satpura TR. Looks like TOI even quoted the estimated weight wrong in their article.



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thanks @Jerricson 

any idea how old this male was?
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(11-06-2022, 12:14 PM)Jerricson Wrote: Hope this clears the confusion regarding body mass of the male recently shifted to Satpura TR. Looks like TOI even quoted the estimated weight wrong in their article.



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Like I said, never use TOI as a source. Thanks for confirming.
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(11-06-2022, 05:18 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-06-2022, 12:14 PM)Jerricson Wrote: Hope this clears the confusion regarding body mass of the male recently shifted to Satpura TR. Looks like TOI even quoted the estimated weight wrong in their article.



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Like I said, never use TOI as a source. Thanks for confirming.

Not just TOI but any news article in general.
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(11-06-2022, 05:30 PM)LonePredator Wrote:
(11-06-2022, 05:18 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-06-2022, 12:14 PM)Jerricson Wrote: Hope this clears the confusion regarding body mass of the male recently shifted to Satpura TR. Looks like TOI even quoted the estimated weight wrong in their article.



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Like I said, never use TOI as a source. Thanks for confirming.

Not just TOI but any news article in general.
For the most part, yes unless the article directly quotes someone who took part in the actual capture.
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@GuateGojira hi guate just seen this 288kg tiger data ,its overall height is 130cm and paw length is 20cm , so is its height 110 cm in straight line , and paw width is given 18cm , whats the biggest paw ever measured in case of a tiger ?

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(12-11-2022, 08:33 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote: @GuateGojira hi guate just seen this 288kg tiger data ,its overall height is 130cm and paw length is 20cm , so is its height 110 cm in straight line , and paw width is given 18cm , whats the biggest paw ever measured in case of a tiger ?

20cm is the upper limit of paw size. A male in Kanha named Saddam had a 20cm paw.

Do you know where this data came from?
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@Pckts @abhisingh7 888 male’s paw size from Melghat measured at over 18 cm. I think hairyfoot most likely exceeded 19 cm while the Rajaji male definitely had paw prints over 20 cm.
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(12-11-2022, 09:08 PM)Ashutosh Wrote: @Pckts @abhisingh7 888 male’s paw size from Melghat measured at over 18 cm. I think hairyfoot most likely exceeded 19 cm while the Rajaji male definitely had paw prints over 20 cm.

Yeah, anything over 20cm is exceptional. Although Sadam for having a 20cm pugmark was said to be one of the more modest males. Similar in length to Kankatta but a little more bulky. Still smaller than Banda and Konda by some margin.
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(12-11-2022, 09:13 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(12-11-2022, 09:08 PM)Ashutosh Wrote: @Pckts @abhisingh7 888 male’s paw size from Melghat measured at over 18 cm. I think hairyfoot most likely exceeded 19 cm while the Rajaji male definitely had paw prints over 20 cm.

Yeah, anything over 20cm is exceptional. Although Sadam for having a 20cm pugmark was said to be one of the more modest males. Similar in length to Kankatta but a little more bulky. Still smaller than Banda and Konda by some margin.

have u got pics of saddam , may be this data is by charger. 20 cm paw width is very large and rare , i want to see that kanha male .
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