Maximum size of prey that a single male lion or tiger can kill

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(04-11-2020, 11:57 PM)Pckts Wrote: Once again, kill weights were estimated and not only that but Tigers feeding on kills were almost 2 per kill which could mean cooperation.

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Also showing no avoidance between leopard and tiger hunting times which is what Sankhala specifically disagreed with Schaller about.

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Where exactly are you coming up with Karanth seeing Bulls killed?

And this carcass below

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Its stuck in deep mud, mass amount of flesh is missing and how in the world would you be able to determine cause of death let alone a weight or health of that animal?
Like Sankhala notes in his book, kills are fed on by many animals and Tigers will leave kills for long periods of time after full and Hyena, jackal, vulture, jungle cat, leopard  and many other predators will eat at that carcass while they're gone.

You say: "Once again, kill weights were estimated and not only that but Tigers feeding on kills were almost 2 per kill which could mean cooperation."

Did you forget this image:

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They did weighed the animals, the estimation was just for the part that the tiger (or other predator) already ate, so the figures are based in real weights plus the amoutn ate, after all.

Also, if two or more tigers are in a kill do not means cooperation at all. In fact, there are several records of tigers eating on kills that were made by a single tiger. The famous event of 9 tigers reported by Valmik Thapar is a great example, the female killed the nilgai of about 250 kg and latter the other tigers (all familiars) arrived and ate in order. You are speculating too much on this.

Also the document that you show si the one of 2000 while the one that I am using is the one of 1995 specifically about predator and prey relation. In fact, the pages that you use do not add anything new that I allready had not showed. And about that part that says "estimated weights" I allready told you that they estimated from the part that was already consumed, but they did weighed the animals, there is a picture with a big gaur (based on the head) so I don't see your point in denied this fact.

Here is what Dr Karanth says about the weighing, again:

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Here confirmed by Dr Sunquist:

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Do you think that they will lie in they publications?


And about bulls killed, here you have it, from the document of 1995, with percentage of bulls, the health status and other details of the prey killed:

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There is no doubt, tigers do kill gaurs of up to 1000 kg, is a proved fact and the top experts on tigers in the field provided the evidence. Obviously tigers are not targeting the big bulls all the time as we know that most of the gaur killied are youngs and that is why the average weight of the gaur killed is of 287 kg (and I said that since the begining), but from time to time they do the work and they have a big meal to eat:

That is why Dr Karanth said this:

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And like other posters said, it seems that tigers can also kill adult Indian rhinos, but there is few information about that. Reply