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Matimba Coalition Male Lineage

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A good sighting of the Torchwood male (sired by the southern Matimba males) with the Leeupan pride members in KNP
PC: Graeme Mitchley

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(12-30-2020, 03:33 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: A good sighting of the Torchwood male (sired by the southern Matimba males) with the Leeupan pride members in KNP
PC: Graeme Mitchley

Hairy Belly Torchwood is big male just like his father, you can see how much bigger head he has compared to those lionesses..
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(12-30-2020, 03:33 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: A good sighting of the Torchwood male (sired by the southern Matimba males) with the Leeupan pride members in KNP
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Are the Matshpiri sons still with him? The Matshpiri males were some impressive lions, S. Avocas would have probably never become dominant in Sabi Sands was it not for the untimely leg-break and eventual demise of the Mohawk Matshpiri.
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(12-30-2020, 06:39 AM)sik94 Wrote: Are the Matshpiri sons still with him? The Matshpiri males were some impressive lions, S. Avocas would have probably never become dominant in Sabi Sands was it not for the untimely leg-break and eventual demise of the Mohawk Matshpiri.

Apparently they are.
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Torchwood Male with Leeupan Lionesses


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(01-02-2021, 02:53 PM)Potato Wrote: Torchwood Male with Leeupan Lionesses


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Spitting image of Hairy Belly (minus the hairy belly lol)
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(01-02-2021, 04:29 PM)Rabubi Wrote: Spitting image of Hairy Belly (minus the hairy belly lol)

Thats a big male, he also had hairy belly:

(picture from late 2018,Kirkman's Kamp)

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Shaka, he was mating with Skorro female :

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The eyes say it all.  What a glare! Remind you of a certain lion? Wink






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(01-10-2021, 09:36 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: The eyes say it all.  What a glare! Remind you of a certain lion? Wink






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Which Matimba son is this?
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Mbiri male seen on 7th of January just outside Orpen camp.


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(01-10-2021, 01:41 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(01-10-2021, 09:36 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: The eyes say it all.  What a glare! Remind you of a certain lion? Wink






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Which Matimba son is this?

That's HB Matimba
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(01-10-2021, 01:41 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(01-10-2021, 09:36 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: The eyes say it all.  What a glare! Remind you of a certain lion? Wink






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Which Matimba son is this?


It was from a Facebook post.  The poster ID'd him as a Talamati offspring and posts quite often about lions.  I do not know how many offspring the Matimbas sired specifically in their early years together, nor do I know where all the sons dispersed to exactly.  There were a lot of them though.  I'm not sold on the Talamati offspring bit 100% (he might be though and only because I did not follow the Matimbas then), and some might think he's HB, but when you look at the eyes closely and the muzzle shape/length with other subtle differences, they vary a bit and he's not an exact clone or copy of HB.  In fact, his eye color is pale tawny and HB's are amber or orange (at the lightest). 

Seems that no rangers kept up with all the Matimba siblings or offspring.  There could be ones we do not know about, more than we realize I'm sure. There are even age questions about all the coalition members.  Agreement is lacking.
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(01-10-2021, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Seems that no rangers kept up with all the Matimba siblings or offspring.  There could be ones we do not know about, more than we realize I'm sure. There are even age questions about all the coalition members.  Agreement is lacking.

Under the picture is date.. @2015..so thats Hairy Belly Matimba.. Their oldest sons would be only 3/4 yrs in 2015..
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(01-10-2021, 05:04 PM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(01-10-2021, 01:41 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(01-10-2021, 09:36 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: The eyes say it all.  What a glare! Remind you of a certain lion? Wink






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Which Matimba son is this?

That's HB Matimba


There are differences though in muzzle shape, eye color, and other subtle traits.  The Matimbas are a fascinating bunch.  



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