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Male tiger ustaad T-24 killed forest gaurd in Ranthambore

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(05-19-2015, 09:32 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 08:33 AM)'Roflcopters' Wrote: It breaks my heart to see Ustaad in the tiny enclosure but theres no way, he's ever going back to the wild. people that want him out in the wild are being arrogant. if he has killed in the past, he will kill again and thats the bottom line. I researched everything leading up to this point and it would seem that humans are 99.9% at fault for this, blame also goes to Park officials for not enforcing proper rules. Hundreds of people risk their lives to go the temples within T24's territory. that's clearly tresspassing his territory and tigers are very territorial animals. Given the circumstances. If similar things were to happen in Kanha, Bandhavgarh etc etc. Im sure the tigers down there wouldve reacted the same way. Its unfortunate that T24 paid a heavy price for killing someone in his home turf. This time however, it was a human again and although i side with T24. On a professional level, a tiger that has killed 4 humans in the past. Can and will possibly kill again. This is probably better than him being put down and labelled another man eater. I dont think T24 would ever classify as one, he is a man killer that killed people in his home turf but theres no actual proof of him acquiring the taste of human flesh. Nor did he ever eat any of his victims. This is a terrible loss for all the real tiger lovers. T24 legacy will carry on with Sultan's blood line and Sultan is probably the boldest youngster out there.

 
Everything you have written is correct, but here is where I have the problem.
No doubt he will kill again, but so what?
He is a wild animal and killing is part of his life,  the fact that humans think of themselves as a separate entity than any other animal is the problem. He kills a Cow, no problem, he kills a human in the same territory, problem!??
That is not how to protect these animals, conservation means allowing them to live in peace and helping them gain new territory, all this is doing is setting a precedent that if a tiger or any wild animal kills a human  being they are removed. A few days after this incident, a female tiger with cubs attacked another forest guard, are we to remove her as well?
If human beings truly care about both humans and animals then they will stop allowing the over crowding of these small reserves, tourism is growing, the hotel lobbyist are responsible for getting im removed so let them be responsible for financing more land to these reserves. Give these tigers much more space, give them a reason to stay away from human beings, don't put collars on them to let VIPs know where they are (not saying that is all they are used for), don't put heavily used roads directly through their territory and certainly don't think of yourself better than them, or like your life is worth more. Tigers are not humans, they don't have a "bill of rights" they don't have a "declaration of independence" they don't live by "man made laws" they live by one law. Survival of the fittest, if we are going to trespass in their territory we must respect that law. If we simply want to say that we do but still remove them when they don't behave how we want, we may as well go back to hunting them till extinction.

Sorry for the long write up, but after seeing the immense support he is receiving and seeing the lobbyist control political moves, I can't help but feel that Indian wildlife conservation is going the way of American Politics.
The rich makes the rules and the poor suffer and in this case, the poor is the Tiger.
Just my 2 cents...


 


I respect your opinion Pckts but I dont think rules are going to be strictly enforced anytime soon and it would be another disaster waiting to happen. I just think that you look at most of these things from a photographic community point of view, put their trash articles and expert bashing aside and face the truth. T24 cannot roam back in his territory, maybe they shouldve tried relocating him to one of the empty parks like Melghat or even Umred and he wouldve easily resumed his life. Its unfortunate but i do understand Mr.Valmik Thappar. Im not sentimental like others, also remember. Most people holding the *Free T24* are the same people that harassed him in their overcrowded jeeps, they think scientific radiocollaring is a mere joke. Writing crap articles about Gabbar losing because of his radio-collar. Thats bullshit. saturn aka namdev, gabbar aka leopard face and katezari aka tyson have been rivals for ages and you dont always come out on top. Thats how i see it. I stopped reading biased articles like that and im in full support of the tiger experts that are against the idea of T24 roaming in his turf. He killed a human, he will be punished and thats the end of it to me.
 
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