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His majestic! - The famous Hercules male resting at Orpen Gate in KNP,Hes prob one of the most beautiful male lions around the Kruger National Park,A trilogy son with all the letters!
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KNP-Orpen Gate,Posted: 26/05/2020.
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Hercules with one of the Skorro lionesses Orpen Gate, Kruger National Park
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KNP-Orpen Gate,Posted: 19/03/2020

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The younger Mbiri male
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KNP-Orpen Gate,Posted: 12/02/2020

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Hercules and Sumatra males with the whole Skorro pride not far from the H7
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KNP-Orpen Gate,Posted: 29/01/2020

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This incredible male lion is known as Maposa. His milky blue eye will tell a thousand tales, but it is believed to be from a giraffe kick during an unsuccessful hunt many years ago. While there is speculation of glaucoma in his older age this has no effect on his hunting ability, and makes him a bucket list sighting
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Thornybush Game Reserve,Posted: 13/09/2020 "OLD PHOTO"

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"The younger Mbiri male"

I must say that this term is hurting my eyes a bit. There is no difference in age between two Mbiri male more than couple of weeks. Both were born in late 2013 Here you have photos of Mbiris from September 2016:


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Larger Mbiri most definitelly isn't even 7 years old yet. 
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(09-13-2020, 08:52 PM)Potato Wrote: "The younger Mbiri male"

I must say that this term is hurting my eyes a bit. There is no difference in age between two Mbiri male more than couple of weeks. Both were born in late 2013 Here you have photos of Mbiris from September 2016:


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Larger Mbiri most definitelly isn't even 7 years old yet. 


I'm just saying what the ranger says,Also Cathan Moore has called him as the "younger Mbiri male"Besides I believe there not are any problem,I'm sure that everyone knows the ages of them and just know that is know as the younger Mbiri male due his small mane that he has a few years ago,meanwhile his bro was a beast and used to seems much older,but isn't it!
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Also,If exist the case that the Mbiri "younger" born a couple weeks later than the larger Mbiri male,so the nickname younger Mbiri male should be the correct one,You don think!?,I'm just saying,from my point
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One of the middle aged females (+- 7 years old) from the Birmingham pride
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Ngala-Timbavati,Posted: Sept 13.,2020 "OLD PHOTO"

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Throwback with the Timbavati male who did a coalition with the Black dam male and Marvin
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Thornybush,Posted: 13/09/2020 "OLD PHOTO"

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Throwback to 2012 at Shindzela Tented Camp with the RockFig male,who currently dominates the Nsemani dam area with his coalition partner the Older Mbiri male
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Shindzela Tented Camp-Timbavati,Posted: 06/07/2012 "OLD PHOTO"

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A lioness from the Avoca pride (mother of the 2 Xikukutsu males) on the prowl at Shindzela Tented Camp 
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Shindzela Tented Camp-Timbavati,Posted: 20/07/2019 "OLD PHOTO"
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"Besides I believe there not are any problem,I'm sure that everyone knows the ages of them "

For older users might not be a problem, but for newer ones it surely will bring a lot of confusion especially if that term will be repeated over and over again.

" just know that is know as the younger Mbiri male due his small mane that he has a few years ago,meanwhile his bro was a beast and used to seems much older,but isn't it"

This is exactly why some rangers called smaller Mbiri a younger ones. They were judging by the mane size without knowing their origins.

"Also,If exist the case that the Mbiri "younger" born a couple weeks later than the larger Mbiri male,so the nickname younger Mbiri male should be the correct one,You don think!?,I'm just saying,from my point"

It isn't said that larger Mbiri is from older litter. It might be other way around and the smaller Mbiri might be a bit older or they might be from the same litter and be exact same age.
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1) - Well,I think some of the new followers of the lion dynamics in the KNP/Greater Kruger also call him as younger Mbiri,so not seems to be much problem for now.

2 - I think,the rangers of Timbavati are very good update and aware of the origins of the Mbiri boys,specially Christof Schoeman who spent a couple of years in the Manyeleti and saw the two Mbiri boys growing with each passing day,I believe more than my own personal opinion,It's also from the rangers
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The Mapoza male  - a survivor on the move
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Timbavati-Thornybush,Posted: 14/09/2020.

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