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05-24-2024, 09:51 PM( This post was last modified: 05-24-2024, 09:52 PM by BA0701 )
(05-24-2024, 08:35 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 07:51 PM)NLAL11 Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 07:05 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 01:20 PM)NLAL11 Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 04:59 AM)KM600 Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 01:31 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: There simply has to be a showdown soon doesn't there? The Nkhuma's are the only mating eligible pride at the moment, and you have Skorro and NK messing around in the West, Khanya and the Kambula's messing around in the north (I am very curious still what happens when sister draws Estrus), and the PCM's trying to live in all the worlds. Sooner or later someone has to get caught right? The shame of it is, the Nkhuma's will catch the worst of this most likely.
I am also worried about what this means for the Othawa's and Ridge's subs.
Technically PCMs possibly abandoning part of the West is good for the Othawas as it’s likely Skorro and Nkuhuma could settle down - neither should be a threat to the lionesses if they pursue this current coalition. Obviously wouldn’t be ideal when they come into estrus and have a need to mate. As for Nkuhuma breakaways, they are in a very tough situation that I don’t think gets affected by any of the male lion dynamics in the area. Would love to see the female join the Othawas and the male go searching for his own partners too but as of right now them being alive and in good condition, especially given their age and their nomadic status, that’s enough.
The Kambula lioness has already been in estrus and it’s clear the males would willingly mate with her, she’s the one holding back. As for there being a showdown, I agree, someone coalition / male lion is gonna take a heavy beating at some point being in close proximity to so many others. I actually have a feeling BDMs might go back into Manyeleti as we on this topic.
I have to disagree with Skorro Jr and Nkuhuma being better for the Othawas. The girls won't mate with their father, it's one of the built-in/innate preventers of inbreeding. And they are certainly more of a danger to the Nkuhuma breakaways. The NB girl won't work with the Othawas, because even if she joined them, they'll come into eustrus way sooner than she will, and she'll just get chased off again, or killed.
Loonkito was rumored to have bred with his granddaughters, who he himself had helped create. For sure it is known that he bred with his daughters, as when they became pregnant he had been the only male over the pride for quite an extended time.
Males have been observed, countless times, mock mounting other males, in what we're told is bonding or an attempt to secure dominance. Would they not do that to females as well?
Talk about keeping it in the family. Jesus. So it can happen then.
Just searched for Loonkito, the Africa's oldest lion, who was speared to death by villagers in Kenya. What a sad end for a very old lion. Those villagers can go to hell.
He was one of the lions I followed because he was so rare for his age. He and Spearboy who also has to be gone now. It was so frustrating when he was killed. He was well known to the villagers as well. He broke into an enclosure to kill cattle rather than ranchers that brought their cattle to him. Still terrible.
From being the winner of the most brutal, and most prolonged, fight I have ever seen on video (to be honest, I thought there was no way either of those males was going to survive after seeing that), to going out like he did, at the age he had reached (almost 20) in the wild, it will never sit well with me.