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Lions of Sabi Sands

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MALAMALA TODAY: November 22nd-25th. No fewer that 20 lion sightings were recorded over the last 4 days: Given the seemingly random movements of the Styx pride recently they were bound to run into other lions at some stage and indeed this was the case on Friday night. The pride was left in the Sand River close to MalaMala Camp when, just before dinner, the unmistakable sound of lions fighting erupted from their last position. Unfortunately by the time we got out there it was too late and we were left to speculate as to what transpired. Members of the Nkuhuma pride were trailing a herd of buffalo in the northeast. They had an unidentified young male for company. 2 lionesses from the Torchwood pride were also seen in the same area. The Eyrefield pride and Avoca males were viewed separately in the south. As usual, the Kambula pride and Gowrie males accounted for the majority of sightings. All 6 lionesses, 3 males and 13 cubs were viewed. 4 of the lionesses killed a kudu in front of Rattray’s Camp at which 4 young cubs were briefly seen in addition to the 6 oldest ones. We have yet to confirm if this is a new litter- if it is then they’re up to 17 cubs! Image of Kambulas and cubs by guest Scott Schuldiner.

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@Pbonz - I think they're referring to the northern Avoca boys, since the Styx have subadults (yes BBoy sired) they want to protect from adult males.

@Michael - that may also be correct.
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(11-28-2018, 09:30 PM)joka98 Wrote: found it here
http://www.cathouse-fcc.org/africa03.html

Quite a long read, but this was the info they shared:

Quote:We also see a hippo out of water, 3 ground hornbills, and part of the Eyrefield pride of lions, 2 adult females with 4 two year old cubs.

Now, I have no idea which of the cubs is which, but they are the Mapogos for sure, thanks for sharing!
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Young male lion part of a new pride of 10 seen in the Sabi Sands Djuma area consisting of 5 females and 5 young males..Image by Mems & Farida Carim, November 28, 2018

Later commentators said that the sub adult male is part of the Nharu pride from Manyeleti, which is a Birmingham breakaway pride. Interesting movements.


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Thanda Impi male's sons?
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@Potato that is most likely, although knowing the profligacy that lionesses can display in order to maximise reproductive outcomes, it may also be an Avoca/Giraffe son.
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(11-30-2018, 04:49 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 09:30 PM)joka98 Wrote: found it here
http://www.cathouse-fcc.org/africa03.html

Quite a long read, but this was the info they shared:

Quote:We also see a hippo out of water, 3 ground hornbills, and part of the Eyrefield pride of lions, 2 adult females with 4 two year old cubs.

Now, I have no idea which of the cubs is which, but they are the Mapogos for sure, thanks for sharing!

The mapogos still have some bloodline?
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(12-01-2018, 07:54 PM)Pbonz Wrote: they are the Mapogos for sure
can u post the pics ....the videos are not opening from that link...!!!
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(12-01-2018, 07:54 PM)Pbonz Wrote:
(11-30-2018, 04:49 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 09:30 PM)joka98 Wrote: found it here
http://www.cathouse-fcc.org/africa03.html

Quite a long read, but this was the info they shared:

Quote:We also see a hippo out of water, 3 ground hornbills, and part of the Eyrefield pride of lions, 2 adult females with 4 two year old cubs.

Now, I have no idea which of the cubs is which, but they are the Mapogos for sure, thanks for sharing!

The mapogos still have some bloodline?

Yes. Older Othawa females were sired by Mapogos and adult Mhangeni females were sired by Estern Mapogos so also next generations from these prides have Mapogo genes including Kambula pride which are daughters of Mhangeni females.
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(12-01-2018, 08:28 PM)Potato Wrote:
(12-01-2018, 07:54 PM)Pbonz Wrote:
(11-30-2018, 04:49 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 09:30 PM)joka98 Wrote: found it here
http://www.cathouse-fcc.org/africa03.html

Quite a long read, but this was the info they shared:

Quote:We also see a hippo out of water, 3 ground hornbills, and part of the Eyrefield pride of lions, 2 adult females with 4 two year old cubs.

Now, I have no idea which of the cubs is which, but they are the Mapogos for sure, thanks for sharing!

The mapogos still have some bloodline?

Yes. Older Othawa females were sired by Mapogos and adult Mhangeni females were sired by Estern Mapogos so also next generations from these prides have Mapogo genes including Kambula pride which are daughters of Mhangeni females.

i was asking about males....
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No sons beside 2 Othawa males which went into Kruger and nobody knows if they made it. Only grandsons from the prides I mentioned.
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Mighty Mapogo. One of the last sightings of the remaining two of this infamous coalition of Sabi Sands. Image by Irene Nathanson. December 1, 2018


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(12-01-2018, 07:54 PM)Pbonz Wrote: The mapogos still have some bloodline?

Like Potato said, 2 Othawa females( the third one died, killed by hyenas), and the 4 Mangheni females.
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4 lionesses with the 11 tiny cubs between them. Kambula pride at Mala Mala. Videos by Marlon du Toit, December 1, 2018



Image by Cameron Inggs at Mala Mala, December 1, 2018 - The one on the right has the Kambula 'don't f...with me' look.

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Cuteness. Image by Kyle Smith at Mala Mala, December 1, 2018

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The Mangheni females have two sets of cubs, the older ones are Birmingham sired, not sure of the younger ones. Video by Quinton Paul Josop at Singita, December 3, 2018


We had a great sighting of the Talamati pride this morning. Video by Cheetah Plains Game Reserve, December 3, 2018

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(11-30-2018, 07:23 AM)Herekitty Wrote: Young male lion part of a new pride of 10 seen in the Sabi Sands Djuma area consisting of 5 females and 5 young males..Image by Mems & Farida Carim, November 28, 2018

Later commentators said that the sub adult male is part of the Nharu pride from Manyeleti, which is a Birmingham breakaway pride. Interesting movements.


*This image is copyright of its original author

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the three original lionesses from the Nharu pride the sisters/cousins of the Birmingham Boys that left the pride with them and briefly traveled with them as nomads? If so, that is really interesting.
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