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(05-30-2023, 02:38 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: Yes, I noticed. I do not agree with Tristan, that the breakaway name should be given to the younger generation, when it was the older lionesses that broke away. The lions that broke away from the main pride should always be the breakaway pride. Just like Mala Mala says the Nkuhuma Lionesses, initially 2, were the breakaway lionesses....yet they were the older ones and they did, in fact, break away from the rest of the pride. I don't understand how he could say it should be the other way around. Would be strange.
I was saying this before already.
How did we determined which group breakaway? You could also say that younger females breakaways because they didnt accept new male and moved off from their natal area.
Most of adult females accepted new territorial male in the area and stayed in their core territory, while younger females went nomadic, didnt accept new males and will settle in new area.
By all "rules" now, group with S8 male should be called core.
But whatever, lodges will decide how they will call them in the end.
Well, I noticed that the guides were saying way back that 3 lionesses (no mention of ages...not that that would matter) broke away from the main pride and went to the S8 Male.... I looked back and the wording a safari company (Pungwei) made seemed to indicate it was the lionesses that broke away and wondered if they later would join the main pride OR form a NEW one. This wording clearly indicates that they did the breakaway action and that they might form a new pride. So, even among some guides in the Manyaleti, there is no agreement with Tristan. Which one should be the breakaway pride now? Who has the final say? Interesting.
Here is the post from 10/21 made by Tonpa with an Ig link to Pungwei and quoted:
"The beautiful and impressive Mbali Male is making his presence know in the Manyeleti. He has joined up with three lionesses from the Talamati Pride and is currently mating with them, so expect to see lots of Cubs from this liaison in a few short months. The Mbali pride was found recently in the south-east of the reserve with 21 members, including this handsome fellow. We’ll have to see what happens with the Talamati lionesses and whether they rejoin their pride or form a new one."
Yeah 3 girls left darkmane and joined S8 so they left the pride “broke away” to join the S8/Imabli male that’s the way I see it