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(02-26-2023, 10:03 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: So after viewing the most recent video from Tintswalo I was trying to sex all the cubs/Subs from the Mbiri .
This is what my eyes tell me:
The Orpen are 1M & 1F
The Cousins are 1M & 1F
Solo is 1M
I have never seen the new cubs from Kiponas mother.
So, the Tintswalos have only 3 offspring distributed amongst 3 males? They've been pride males for years now! I'd love for them to not waste more of their prime years with their natal pride! I know it means we get to see them hanging around the reserves, getting filmed, but it's not good for their bloodline or the pride.
While I agree with everything you said, I think it is best for all involved for young males to get as far away from their natal pride as is possible, it just isn't very clear how bad it is for the future of the pride when they do not. We see it often in feral cat colonies, Scar Mbiri mated with his sister, and I personally believe the best pride for a case study on this phenomena would be the pride that Loonkito has controlled for so long. He is a 19 year old male lion, who was shown in pictures just a couple of weeks back still alive but it is not clear if he still controls his pride any longer. Loonkito has controlled the same pride for so long he was seen breeding with his own great-grand-daughter/daughter, From all that I have read there does not appear any negative impact thus far on the pride. That is not to say there isn't any, and I would love to read of more observations done on the pride, but I have not read of any deformed or strangely behaving lions coming out of that pride.
So, the impact of this behavior remains unknown, but it would appear to me that nature has taken such behavior into account.