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How this pandemic affected you?

India sanjay Offline
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The world is heading towards lockdown. In India many states have been lockdown and situation is getting worse. The number of confirmed cases from coronavirus is increasing exponentially, only few countries has not reported any case.

I am disheartened after seeing the number of death and infected people, especially in Italy, Spain, Germany and other European countries.. I am praying for them, may god give them power to come out from this hard time.

So for none of my relative or close friend is affected.. but everyone is living in fear here..

How this COVID-19 outbreak has affected your life?
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(03-22-2020, 06:39 PM)sanjay Wrote: The world is heading towards lockdown. In India many states have been lockdown and situation is getting worse. The number of confirmed cases from coronavirus is increasing exponentially, only few countries has not reported any case.

I am disheartened after seeing the number of death and infected people, especially in Italy, Spain, Germany and other European countries.. I am praying for them, may god give them power to come out from this hard time.

So for none of my relative or close friend is affected.. but everyone is living in fear here..

How this COVID-19 outbreak has affected your life?

One of my roommates went to Bangalore in India to get engaged at 30, a few weeks ago. He is due to come back in two or three days, but with the exponentially-increasing travel restrictions on Europe and China, I feel like they will do the same to many other countries like India.

I don't see the US doing very well either when this virus reaches its peak.
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The latest screenshot of the world MAP

More than 300,000 people infected


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Source: https://bing.com/covid
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@sanjay  Please pray for us

I am in Italy as you know Italy in under total lockdown

Yesterday 793 people died in one day
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Everyone needs to keep this in perspective 

In the US between 40-90 thousand people a year die from the flu. 
That is with a well known vaccine that the American public still chose not to get.
"Less than 45% of the US population gets a flu shot each year"
China has a billion people, they've had 3 thousand deaths.
How long do we really think we'll be able to stand a lockdown?
For most of the world this will be a forced unemployment and with little to no economic stimulus from our governments we will be forced back to work regardless of the threats or we will have significant looting and anarchary. 
Let's not forget that even when the "all clear" word comes back most business owners will be too far in the red to do so. The economy is like a big boat, it takes time for the momentum to get going and with an immediate stoppage like this, I just hope for a resolution asap.
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( This post was last modified: 03-22-2020, 09:49 PM by Polar )

(03-22-2020, 09:23 PM)Pckts Wrote: Everyone needs to keep this in perspective 

In the US between 40-90 thousand people a year die from the flu. 
That is with a well known vaccine that the American public still chose not to get.
"Less than 45% of the US population gets a flu shot each year"
China has a billion people, they've had 3 thousand deaths.
How long do we really think we'll be able to stand a lockdown?
For most of the world this will be a forced unemployment and with little to no economic stimulus from our governments we will be forced back to work regardless of the threats or we will have significant looting and anarchary. 
Let's not forget that even when the "all clear" word comes back most business owners will be too far in the red to do so. The economy is like a big boat, it takes time for the momentum to get going and with an immediate stoppage like this, I just hope for a resolution asap.

Unemployment will continue to be pretty high in many sectors for the next few years, and a global economic downturn is right around the corner (long due, anyway). 

On the flip side, more investments in environmental, healthcare, and energy sectors should go up (if officials would learn anything from this in the first place) which should increase the reliability of our grid and supply-chain systems along with greater backup of cutting-edge medical tech and materials for another pandemic. In lieu of all the bad, there is a slight good side as well.

Best thing to do in a case like this is to gradually reduce productivity of non-essential industries (specialty retail or fast food) over a quarterly-period of time and keep or increase productivity in essential industries (trucking, healthcare/pharmaceutical vendors, agriculture, construction) by hiring more people using some form of a government stimulus; most private entities (especially in construction and transportation sectors) won't have enough to allocate for lack of productivity, so it is better that the government takes care of these specific industries.

There's going to have to be huge long-term changes to almost everything in our system if we want to prevent something like this from happening again.
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( This post was last modified: 03-22-2020, 10:05 PM by Pckts )

Unfortunately those industries will not be able to employ most of the population. You'll then see a few large companies own most of the distributable assets in the world.
If we're not careful, we'll all be working for Amazon in 6 months.
To me, this stinks of a corporate ploy to buy up industries at the cheap. I know this may sound a little 'Tinfoil Hat"ish" 
to most.

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It's also important that industry itself is intact.
Manufacturing is a necessity and require man power in the warehouses and offices.
If our next move is to completely remove the "human factor" from the economy then most of the population is in deep, deep trouble.
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(03-22-2020, 09:56 PM)Pckts Wrote: Unfortunately those industries will not be able to employ most of the population. You'll then see a few large companies own most of the distributable assets in the world.
If we're not careful, we'll all be working for Amazon in 6 months.
To me, this stinks of a corporate ploy to buy up industries at the cheap. I know this may sound a little 'Tinfoil Hat"ish" 
to most.

That's the way our heavily-capitalist system is distributed already, sadly. Big dogs can always easily one up the beginners, especially in times of economic strife. It's not tinfoil-hatish, it is literally reality for many years now lol.


Hopefully, those in charge will actually think about their incentivization structures and adapt to actually improving things once this all clears up.
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India sanjay Offline
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I can understand you guys.. but lets stick with the topic.. what will happen in future.. we will see, if we live
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( This post was last modified: 03-23-2020, 05:22 AM by Kingtheropod )

To be honest, I'm more concerned with the financial impact then the virus itself.

WHO launches global megatrial of the four most promising coronavirus treatments

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/...treatments

Luckily, there are several possible treatments on the way that could cure this. One of them being a well known anti-malaria drug and another being an anti-viral drug used to combat former outbreaks^

There are currently only 19 cases in my province, with no community transmission as of now (Other 19 were travel related).

Stores are closed, and friends are no longer accessible unless you communicate with them online. No full blown quarantine as of now has been implemented in my area yet. But I still worry if that will last.
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(03-22-2020, 08:01 PM)TigreFeroce9 Wrote: @sanjay  Please pray for us

I am in Italy as you know Italy in under total lockdown

Yesterday 793 people died in one day

The virus must be spreading through the hospitals, that to me is the only logical explanation as to why the virus is spreading despite total lockdown.
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( This post was last modified: 03-23-2020, 09:36 AM by tigerluver )

It's in the community in most places. There are many more asymptomatic cases than is reported (inherently, can't write case reports on people who don't seek medical attention) and that is why people are getting it from unknown sources. This is one of the first studies on how silent the virus is.

Another good read on the mortality rate of the virus is here.

The mortality is also staggered by age and comorbidity.

"The overall case-fatality rate (CFR) was 2.3% (1023 deaths among 44 672 confirmed cases). No deaths occurred in the group aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8.0% CFR and cases in those aged 80 years and older had a 14.8% CFR. No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The CFR was 49.0% among critical cases. CFR was elevated among those with preexisting comorbid conditions—10.5% for cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6.0% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer. Among the 44 672 cases, a total of 1716 were health workers (3.8%), 1080 of whom were in Wuhan (63%). Overall, 14.8% of confirmed cases among health workers were classified as severe or critical and 5 deaths were observed.1"


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For us in the States, here are the projected timelines from this study:

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Nonetheless, no matter what we do without a vaccine the healthcare system overload with come per this model:

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Beyond the obvious hygiene and distancing, perhaps try to up your vitamin C intake. No randomized controlled trials or observational studies to back vitamin C up just yet but the theory is sound.
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( This post was last modified: 03-24-2020, 09:58 PM by Rishi )

3weeks all India lockdown from today midnight...
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(03-24-2020, 09:57 PM)Rishi Wrote: 3weeks all India lockdown from today midnight...

Brutal...
Any word of an economic stimulus to the country?

The US is bickering over the details while they stall any payment to the people
Each side blaming the other while the real answer would be to take both parties Stimulus plan and make them available to the public and let us vote on it.
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( This post was last modified: 03-25-2020, 08:05 AM by Rishi )

(03-24-2020, 10:51 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(03-24-2020, 09:57 PM)Rishi Wrote: 3weeks all India lockdown from today midnight...

Brutal...
Any word of an economic stimulus to the country?

The US is bickering over the details while they stall any payment to the people
Each side blaming the other while the real answer would be to take both parties Stimulus plan and make them available to the public and let us vote on it.

Too early to tell... Everything was neat normal less than a week ago.

Quote:Lockdown rules 
Lockdown refers to an emergency protocol followed in a region, which restricts the people to leave the specified area. It indicates that you must stay where you are and must not leave the specified location.
  • Only essential services will be working in these 548 districts in India under lockdown. Essential activities include going to groceries, dairies, hospitals, banks, petrol stations, pharmacy, to doctor, on a walk.
  • All the non-essential activities like shopping malls, theatres, stadiums, beauty salons, barbershops, bars and pubs, etc are ordered to be shut for that period of time.
  • If anyone breaks the rule, they would face the punishment of either a fine of Rs 1000 or even imprisonment for 6 months or even both.
  • All states under complete lockdown have invoked sections 188 and 269 of IPC.
  • Section 188 is for punishing the offender when he/she violates the orders of a public servant that may endanger their own life, health or safety.
  • Section 269 is for when the infected people are not following quarantine rules. Both sections are available. 
  • The private offices are expected to allow the employees to work from home.
  • The central and state govt will provide relief packages to temporary workers and daily wage workers to aid them during this lockdown period.
  • People can't travel to different states until March 31 if they belong to a lockdown district.[/color]
  • The suburban train services are suspended. [/color][/color]
  • No train services except the goods train will run till 2400 hrs of March 31. Goods trains are exempted from travel restrictions so that the essential items can be transported to every locality. [/color]
  • Suspended services - The interstate transport buses, long-distance train services, domestic flights, suburban rail services, metro rail services are also suspended from March 25 till March 31.
  • Train tickets- All the passengers whose ticket got cancelled during this lockdown period will get a full refund until the booking period of June 21. 
  • Airline tickets - The respective domestic airlines have started to offer their customers to reschedule their flights without any charges; however, they are not offering free cancellation.
  • Taxi or auto-rickshaw may ply (less frequency of the autos, while in some states the taxi services are shut as well), local buses minimal.

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