History's most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions

[Abomai]

(04-15-2018, 03:10 AM)T Rabbit Wrote: Abomai why pure fantasy? Im only talking about the final moments of lion. What could happened there. The guy wich is talking  about this final interaction send us the pic of scar nose body. Look at the condition of scar nose. He was unable to fight. 

It was said that he was attacked after going out on territorial patrol. I know he was in a very bad shape and probably not on a patrol per se, but your description of how it happened is just guess with no evidence. Reply

[Michael]

(04-15-2018, 02:45 AM)T Rabbit Wrote: Leroy lets be honest if this interaction between the bboys and scar nose happened we can't call this as fight. Scar nose was layed waiting for the death with 14 years old and half of his real weight. Maybe bboys only did the bite death around his neck and left  him behind. Scar  nose was killed by a combination of old age and starvation 

What ?

That makes no sense, if an extremely old person dies from a disease the disease in question killed that person it's doesn't matter if that person would most likely die soon, old age is never the cause of death.

If the BB'S killed him it doesn't matter if he was barely alive when they got there they were still the ones killing him, regardless of how able he was to fight back plus the guide supposedly was present when they fought.

He actually didn't look that bad in those photos apart from the obvious wounds he looked fuller than in some pictures when he was still alive. Reply

[Tshokwane]

(04-15-2018, 03:49 AM)Michael Wrote: If the BB'S killed him it doesn't matter if he was barely alive when they got there they were still the ones killing him, regardless of how able he was to fight back plus the guide supposedly was present when they fought.

Yet the little of info I have been able to gather suggest nothing of the fight, nothing at all seen by the rangers, merely some wounds that were not fatal.

My advice to all of you is to slow down with the speculations because it leads to nothing, especially with the lack of a report from the people that's actually there. 

Until there's some solid evidence outside of some words said by someone invisible, then we best let go of the subject and discuss other lions.

Thank you. Reply

[sik94]

Let it go guys, you are free to have your own standards of evidence with alleged sightings like this. We have our own opinions on what might have happened but at the end of the day it's all speculation. Reply

[HouseOfLions]

(04-15-2018, 04:42 AM)sik94 Wrote: Let it go guys, you are free to have your own standards of evidence with alleged sightings like this. We have our own opinions on what might have happened but at the end of the day it's all speculation.

Sik, the problem is that there are pictures of Scar Nose showing injuries that generally come from a male lion fight. Especially if it was a gang up. You yourself broke this down and said the same thing on this thread. Reply

[Shaudimela]

Then , Is Golden Mane dead? Reply

[sik94]

(04-15-2018, 05:02 AM)Shaudimela Wrote: Then , Is Golden Mane dead?

Most likely he's been long dead. At that age male lions don't just disappear or leave the area for no reason. Reply

[Tshokwane]

(04-15-2018, 04:55 AM)HouseOfLions Wrote: Sik, the problem is that there are pictures of Scar Nose showing injuries that generally come from a male lion fight. Especially if it was a gang up.

Yet there's abosultely no sign of the crippling injury in the lower back, like it was done to the 5th or to Mr.T.

And also, lions don't peel off a patch of skin just because, nor do they cut off the tail, that's something hyenas would do.

So with that said, the options are left opened, and it doesn't really matter which one killed him.

Let us drop it until new evidence is presented by the lodges. Reply

[sik94]

(04-15-2018, 04:55 AM)HouseOfLions Wrote:

(04-15-2018, 04:42 AM)sik94 Wrote: Let it go guys, you are free to have your own standards of evidence with alleged sightings like this. We have our own opinions on what might have happened but at the end of the day it's all speculation.

Sik, the problem is that there are pictures of Scar Nose showing injuries that generally come from a male lion fight. Especially if it was a gang up. You yourself broke this down and said the same thing on this thread.

Yeah but others might have a more rigorous standard for what they will accept as fact. We are talking likely scenarios here, everyone doesn't have to agree. Reply

[ShakaMapogo]

(04-14-2018, 05:22 PM)Leroy Wrote: Tough b*stards these lions.  If anyone has heard anything about dark mane, please post.  Chances are he's dead but you never know....Remember it wasn't too long ago when I was in Lion Sands.  Could actually reach out and touch charleston male's nose if I wanted to, obviously I didn't but the size and power of those guys.  Looked me right in the soul and roared for his lionesses.  Felt so inadequate being fed alcohol and biltong while these 2 male lions wander around fighting and working for their food.  All I do is pay the price, turn up in a protective jeep and get protected by the ranger's gun.  Shows how far we have regressed.  You wouldn't last two seconds against those things unless you somehow bluffed it and outsmarted it to pretend you are a bigger threat than you actually are.  Lions cut through humans like butter.  God damn, I miss the bush.

I remember the slightly morbid convo we had about Scar Nose on YouTube a while back. Anyway thanks for those last photos of him. Reply

[HouseOfLions]

(04-15-2018, 06:19 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:

(04-15-2018, 04:55 AM)HouseOfLions Wrote: Sik, the problem is that there are pictures of Scar Nose showing injuries that generally come from a male lion fight. Especially if it was a gang up.

Yet there's abosultely no sign of the crippling injury in the lower back, like it was done to the 5th or to Mr.T.

And also, lions don't peel off a patch of skin just because, nor do they cut off the tail, that's something hyenas would do.

So with that said, the options are left opened, and it doesn't really matter which one killed him.

Let us drop it until new evidence is presented by the lodges.

Actually, there were marks that came from a lion attack. Scratch marks on the legs and such. And I agree, they don't peel the skin but Hyena don't leave that much food behind.

Anyway, I agree that it can be anything. Reply

[Leroy]

(04-15-2018, 08:22 AM)ShakaMapogo Wrote:

(04-14-2018, 05:22 PM)Leroy Wrote: Tough b*stards these lions.  If anyone has heard anything about dark mane, please post.  Chances are he's dead but you never know....Remember it wasn't too long ago when I was in Lion Sands.  Could actually reach out and touch charleston male's nose if I wanted to, obviously I didn't but the size and power of those guys.  Looked me right in the soul and roared for his lionesses.  Felt so inadequate being fed alcohol and biltong while these 2 male lions wander around fighting and working for their food.  All I do is pay the price, turn up in a protective jeep and get protected by the ranger's gun.  Shows how far we have regressed.  You wouldn't last two seconds against those things unless you somehow bluffed it and outsmarted it to pretend you are a bigger threat than you actually are.  Lions cut through humans like butter.  God damn, I miss the bush.

I remember the slightly morbid convo we had about Scar Nose on YouTube a while back. Anyway thanks for those last photos of him.

No....no. It can't be you? Were you the one? Scar nose and a hospital and an outfit? Was it You? Reply

[Leroy]

(04-15-2018, 02:45 AM)T Rabbit Wrote: Leroy lets be honest if this interaction between the bboys and scar nose happened we can't call this as fight. Scar nose was layed waiting for the death with 14 years old and half of his real weight. Maybe bboys only did the bite death around his neck and left  him behind. Scar  nose was killed by a combination of old age and starvation 

Scar nose would of been in diabolical condition. Still a fight though, not the result it may be would of been if it was prime scar nose but a fight nonetheless. Age and starvation obviously the main factors and he probably would of died shortly without this confrontation. Reply

[ShakaMapogo]

(04-15-2018, 04:24 PM)Leroy Wrote:

(04-15-2018, 08:22 AM)ShakaMapogo Wrote:

(04-14-2018, 05:22 PM)Leroy Wrote: Tough b*stards these lions.  If anyone has heard anything about dark mane, please post.  Chances are he's dead but you never know....Remember it wasn't too long ago when I was in Lion Sands.  Could actually reach out and touch charleston male's nose if I wanted to, obviously I didn't but the size and power of those guys.  Looked me right in the soul and roared for his lionesses.  Felt so inadequate being fed alcohol and biltong while these 2 male lions wander around fighting and working for their food.  All I do is pay the price, turn up in a protective jeep and get protected by the ranger's gun.  Shows how far we have regressed.  You wouldn't last two seconds against those things unless you somehow bluffed it and outsmarted it to pretend you are a bigger threat than you actually are.  Lions cut through humans like butter.  God damn, I miss the bush.

I remember the slightly morbid convo we had about Scar Nose on YouTube a while back. Anyway thanks for those last photos of him.

No....no. It can't be you? Were you the one? Scar nose and a hospital and an outfit? Was it You?

Yup -.- haha I was gonna send you a private message about it but you have that disabled. I had a feeling it was you from the first post you made on here and the way you write. Reply

[Abomai]

(04-15-2018, 04:37 PM)Leroy Wrote:

(04-15-2018, 04:13 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:

(04-15-2018, 03:49 AM)Michael Wrote: If the BB'S killed him it doesn't matter if he was barely alive when they got there they were still the ones killing him, regardless of how able he was to fight back plus the guide supposedly was present when they fought.

Yet the little of info I have been able to gather suggest nothing of the fight, nothing at all seen by the rangers, merely some wounds that were not fatal.

My advice to all of you is to slow down with the speculations because it leads to nothing, especially with the lack of a report from the people that's actually there. 

Until there's some solid evidence outside of some words said by someone invisible, then we best let go of the subject and discuss other lions.

Thank you.

Rangers don't always blog. Their job is to take care of the tourists and manage the conservation of the areas. Their job is not to hop on to the internet and blog to the devoted lion followers. They have long shifts and a lot of stuff that happens doesn't actually get blogged or reported. I have been to sabi and followed charleston around, none of that made it on to the blogs, or the impending demise of one of the leopards there.

In this instance, we have to work with the facts. Scar nose was found dead with lion esque wounds on his back and the confrontation with Birminghams was witnessed by a singita ranger. The only doubt is whether the Birminghams killed him outright or if sn managed to escape and then got finished off via starvation or hyenas. This is all facts bro. Straight from the rangers themselves, the only speculation is people that refuse to believe it because it hasn't been blogged. When someone provides you facts, it's wise to listen, instead of speculating and asking for a ranger to post something which might not even happen. Let's just accept it and move on and find whats happening to dark mane

I understand Tshokwane's stance in this matter. He's not only a reference here, but also a moderator. It's good for the health of the community to have someone like him that needs the facts to be backed by proof. TRabbit on the other hand is a good poster, but when it comes to the Majingilane anything he posts can be heavily romanticized. Reply