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Currently his and his brother's pride the Mananga Pride is estimated to be 19 strong when all together, according to a head count that was done not long ago, which included six lionesses and thirteen sub-adults and cubs.
Credit: Brian Rode
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Credit: Solomon Ndlovu, picture taken 3 weeks' ago
07-01-2022, 06:21 PM( This post was last modified: 07-01-2022, 06:23 PM by Mdz123 )
(07-01-2022, 04:20 AM)WARRIOR7 Wrote: Can you show me evidence instead of just saying No please
Otherwise I stick to my evidence I supplied that these are the 7 satara boys....
Thanks.
So the Northern Pride used to have many young males around 2017/18 so it was widely speculated that the Satara boys came from this pride since they were born around 2014/15. At the time the pride was controlled by some unknown males.
Then @"Brahimlegend" made a post about the Satara boys. On that post contains the ID photos of some of Satara boys and some of the whiskers dont match on the photo you posted. Also he posted pictures of some of the young males from the Southern pride (not the one in Sabi Sands) and those boys look like the Satara males. So they could either have come from Northern or Southern pride. But we are sure that they are not related to the old Shish males. Their offspring apart from the young Shish incoude 2 Unnamed males, 3 Ratelpan males, and Subadult males from Mountain and Mananga prides
Also, please remember that it is possible the person who posted the photo you posted misidentified the pride.
And surely Brahimlegend has more info about the Satara boys, he probably knows Kruger lions better then anyone in this thread, so we should ask him. Altough he hasnt been active in few days.
07-01-2022, 08:44 PM( This post was last modified: 07-01-2022, 08:45 PM by Brahim )
FOURWAYS BLONDIE!
The old legend who has had a long journey already from being adopted by the Fourways pride as a youngster and teaming up with the Majingilane son known as Darkmane Jr. He's ruled Southern pride, Transport dam pride. Lately this legend who is now 12+ years old but still going strong is still dominant with his new coalition of 3 younger males known as Phabeni males, they dominate around the S1, Phabeni to Pretoriuskop.
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(07-01-2022, 09:00 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Mo Vurhami was darted on N4 last week and dropped off at Afsaal then got out again near Malelane unfortunately. Not sure on his current status.
Is there a two-strike policy regarding breakouts?
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(07-01-2022, 08:43 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: 1 of the 6 Myambula males seen today on the H7 dating 2 lioness. Impressive for a 3 year old.
Credit: Jean de Plessis
8 out of 10 cubs of that Mayambula generation was born around late 2018 (dont know exact months) only 2 cubs where born around January 2019 or something.
So majority of these males are well over 3.5 yrs old and will be 4 soon.
(07-01-2022, 09:00 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Mo Vurhami was darted on N4 last week and dropped off at Afsaal then got out again near Malelane unfortunately. Not sure on his current status.
Thats a problem, he got use to escaping the fences..
(07-01-2022, 09:00 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Mo Vurhami was darted on N4 last week and dropped off at Afsaal then got out again near Malelane unfortunately. Not sure on his current status.
Is there a two-strike policy regarding breakouts?
Best case scenario, they'll probably relocate him to a completely different region. It's been done before with Sylvester the Lion who, after having escaped from the Karoo National Park (Western Cape) twice, was relocated to northern Addo Elephant National Park (Eastern Cape) where he, his coalition partner and pride have been-and still are-flourishing.
07-01-2022, 11:54 PM( This post was last modified: 07-01-2022, 11:55 PM by Tr1x24 )
(07-01-2022, 11:13 PM)Rabubi Wrote: Best case scenario, they'll probably relocate him to a completely different region. It's been done before with Sylvester the Lion who, after having escaped from the Karoo National Park (Western Cape) twice, was relocated to northern Addo Elephant National Park (Eastern Cape) where he, his coalition partner and pride have been-and still are-flourishing.
Worst case scenario, Mo gets shot.
How can a big male lion escape Kruger multiple times, in 2 different spots?? Ok i get it at Mjejane, he found the spot and get out, it happens, but now he repeat it at completley different location..
Are fences in Kruger in such a bad state overall? That lion can get out at his will?
If thats the case, then prob good portion of nomadic and young males also have the same fate, they can just as easily escape the fences and then get killed by locals/poachers..
(07-01-2022, 11:13 PM)Rabubi Wrote: Best case scenario, they'll probably relocate him to a completely different region. It's been done before with Sylvester the Lion who, after having escaped from the Karoo National Park (Western Cape) twice, was relocated to northern Addo Elephant National Park (Eastern Cape) where he, his coalition partner and pride have been-and still are-flourishing.
Worst case scenario, Mo gets shot.
How can a big male lion escape Kruger multiple times, in 2 different spots?? Ok i get it at Mjejane, he found the spot and get out, it happens, but now he repeat it at completley different location..
Are fences in Kruger in such a bad state overall? That lion can get out at his will?
If thats the case, then prob good portion of nomadic and young males also have the same fate, they can just as easily escape the fences and then get killed by locals/poachers..
I would imagine that since GKNP is such a vast area, there would also be a lot of fences that have weaknesses that can be exploited by escaping animals and poachers alike.
Also, warthogs are infamous here for burrowing under fences thus creating openings for larger animals to escape through.
You would find more stable fences and infrastructure in and around the private reserves such as Sabi Sands but the state-run infrastructure (not just in conservation but in general) has seen much better days.
Coalitions of Kruger National Park
