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The five Birmingham subadults and the 15 year old lioness were still lying at the dam on the sunset safari. August 7, 2021 with Dyke Khosa and Morgan. AndBeyond Ngala Private Game Reserve
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(08-08-2021, 09:05 AM)RookiePundit Wrote: That is very distinctive tear like scar on the 4th male. Hope that stays at least a bit. They are starting to look impressive, clearly hardened by the number of scars in their faces, almost look determined. I thought they were bit younger, these have potential, hopefully once they wander off somewhere it would be to a safe area with regular info.
I originally had hoped that perhaps the older one of this group, and BYM might meet and join up one day, when the Ross males were intent on pushing BYM out but the white male, and the others he is currently with, were too young at the time to leave. But, they both seem to have formed a group from their own prides, and I wish for both of their success. All but BYM, who is doing his own, BYM thing, as he seems to have always done, a Freebird if you will.
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(08-09-2021, 02:10 AM)Timbavati Wrote: The five Birmingham subadults and the 15 year old lioness were still lying at the dam on the sunset safari. August 7, 2021 with Dyke Khosa and Morgan. AndBeyond Ngala Private Game Reserve
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I saw the video of this interaction a couple days ago. The guide was discussing how odd it was to find them lying out on the road the way they were, because it was very hot, and they had shade right beside them, where the rest of the group was.
(08-08-2021, 09:05 AM)RookiePundit Wrote: That is very distinctive tear like scar on the 4th male. Hope that stays at least a bit. They are starting to look impressive, clearly hardened by the number of scars in their faces, almost look determined. I thought they were bit younger, these have potential, hopefully once they wander off somewhere it would be to a safe area with regular info.
I originally had hoped that perhaps the older one of this group, and BYM might meet and join up one day, when the Ross males were intent on pushing BYM out but the white male, and the others he is currently with, were too young at the time to leave. But, they both seem to have formed a group from their own prides, and I wish for both of their success. All but BYM, who is doing his own, BYM thing, as he seems to have always done, a Freebird if you will.
He doesn't seem to welcome any new company (BYM that is) as we saw with the behaviour towards what turned to be the young Torchwood male. Althoguh food was involved iirc.
(08-08-2021, 09:05 AM)RookiePundit Wrote: That is very distinctive tear like scar on the 4th male. Hope that stays at least a bit. They are starting to look impressive, clearly hardened by the number of scars in their faces, almost look determined. I thought they were bit younger, these have potential, hopefully once they wander off somewhere it would be to a safe area with regular info.
I originally had hoped that perhaps the older one of this group, and BYM might meet and join up one day, when the Ross males were intent on pushing BYM out but the white male, and the others he is currently with, were too young at the time to leave. But, they both seem to have formed a group from their own prides, and I wish for both of their success. All but BYM, who is doing his own, BYM thing, as he seems to have always done, a Freebird if you will.
He doesn't seem to welcome any new company (BYM that is) as we saw with the behaviour towards what turned to be the young Torchwood male. Althoguh food was involved iirc.
Exactly, behavior I originally chalked up to his lacking confidence. Now, I just don't understand what's going on with him, as he seems to be oozing confidence at this moment. He seemed closest to the white male, when both were still in the pride, but BYM is seen less and less with that group as well. I wish he'd find some coalition partners and stick with them, but for now he seems more resistant to going nomadic than any I've seen before, especially when the dominant pride males have beaten him so badly in the past.
A good sighting of a subadult male lion from the Birmingham breakaway pride standing guard over their Buffalo kill at Shindzela Tented Camp
Photo credits: Johan Smalman
The Ross males spreading those genes. What a coalition the two of them have turned out to be, not being too aggressive in expanding their territory or their number of prides, just protecting one of the most successful and long running prides around, and doing quite a good job at it, and of course the Break away pride as well.
(08-17-2021, 07:20 PM)BA0701 Wrote: The Ross males spreading those genes. What a coalition the two of them have turned out to be, not being too aggressive in expanding their territory or their number of prides, just protecting one of the most successful and long running prides around, and doing quite a good job at it, and of course the Break away pride as well.
Sorry to disagree but the Ross males were quite aggressive in their early years expanding their territory and acquiring pride. They were in many fights that could have swung either way. What you are witnessing is a coalition that's older now but this isn't how they were in their younger years.
And right now they are mating with an Mbiri female which isn't going to lead to any successful spreading of genes. They're not moving to the Manyeleti to protect that pride so this is just more of a fling and could even stir up unnecessary drama with other males.
(08-17-2021, 07:20 PM)BA0701 Wrote: The Ross males spreading those genes. What a coalition the two of them have turned out to be, not being too aggressive in expanding their territory or their number of prides, just protecting one of the most successful and long running prides around, and doing quite a good job at it, and of course the Break away pride as well.
Sorry to disagree but the Ross males were quite aggressive in their early years expanding their territory and acquiring pride. They were in many fights that could have swung either way. What you are witnessing is a coalition that's older now but this isn't how they were in their younger years.
And right now they are mating with an Mbiri female which isn't going to lead to any successful spreading of genes. They're not moving to the Manyeleti to protect that pride so this is just more of a fling and could even stir up unnecessary drama with other males.
No need to be sorry my friend, we are all welcome to disagree. But, yes, in their earlier years, which is why I mentioned that they have turned out to be, we'll call it a maturing process. I was, however, mistaken, as I thought that was one of the Birmingham lionesses. I don't see them going to Manyeleti either, so I agree with that, this might not a good thing after all. Those Mbiris are spread out all over the place right now, which is unfortunate.
Looks like the entire pride is back together, including the white lions. Seems The Birmingham pride is now being referred to as a super pride, given their numbers.
The 23 members of the Birmingham pride seen this afternoon at Ngala
The young Birmingham male was seen yesterday afternoon with the the TYM. A recent update of a friend working in Timbavati.
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Birmingham Pride of lions
