There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
Posts #14 thru #26 shows strong evidence that the Pleistocene grizzly was no larger than today's grizzlies. However, there is also evidence that at least some inland grizzly populations from the early Holocene right up until the invention of the modern breech-load rifle ( 1848 ) were indeed in the size-range of salmon-eating coastal bears. I believe that the demise of the giant short-faced bears was a stepping stone for the grizzly.