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Asiatic Lion - Data, Pictures & Videos

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asiatic lion pose photo by Hemang Patel

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Asiatic liones in the hunting mood

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(Maybe) Asiatic lion specimens present at the Natural History Museums of Jerusalem & Palestine.

Taxidermied Lions at the Natural History Museum in Al-Baq'a, Jerusalem, Palestine.
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pre...-1.5452921

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Another one...

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Male asiatic lion Ziv at the Jerusalem Biblical Zoo in 2016 who came from Sweden in 2014 at age 3.

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...after the male before him died.
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(06-03-2019, 01:47 PM)Rishi Wrote: (Maybe) Asiatic lion specimens present at the Natural History Museums of Jerusalem & Palestine.

Taxidermied Lions at the Natural History Museum in Al-Baq'a, Jerusalem, Palestine.
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pre...-1.5452921

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Another one...

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Male asiatic lion Ziv at the Jerusalem Biblical Zoo in 2016 who came from Sweden in 2014 at age 3.

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...after the male before him died.
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What a coincidence. I just posted this (https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-barbary...6#pid82426), but anyway, I'm surprised by that diorama because I thought that in the Levant, lions had become extinct in the south (Israel cum Palestine) during the Crusades in the Middle Ages, but that they had survived in Syria in the north up to the late 19th Century, possibly as late as 1891 in the area of Aleppo (https://archive.org/stream/bookoflion191...arch/syria, https://archive.org/stream/journalofbomb...2/mode/2up, https://archive.org/stream/mammalsofsov2...0/mode/2uphttps://zookeys.pensoft.net/articles.php?id=2126), as stated by Professor Khalaf-von-Jaffa himself (https://web.archive.org/web/200711121323..._Lion.html).
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I am really happy to see asiatic lions looking strong and healthy as time goes by.
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Repost; same lion & sighting...
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Younger male..
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(05-13-2019, 11:13 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote: Iran wants to bring back the Asiatic lion to its wilderness, and it already has a male in captivity in Tehran Zoological Park, but considering what the situation is with the cheetah, I wonder how they'll manage? https://en.mehrnews.com/news/144891/Will...nce-pushed

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A female is set to join this male: https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/436578/...on-in-Iran
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Maybe this has already been discussed in this thread but I was wondering if there were any lions in Africa that were genetically very similar? And if it has been discussed within India about introducing other lion DNA to make the Asiatic stock stronger? Also ... are there any plans to move some of the lions to other parks to prevent overcrowding? thank you
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(06-10-2019, 04:04 AM)jordi6927 Wrote: Maybe this has already been discussed in this thread but I was wondering if there were any lions in Africa that were genetically very similar? And if it has been discussed within India about introducing other lion DNA to make the Asiatic stock stronger? Also ... are there any plans to move some of the lions to other parks to prevent overcrowding? thank you

From the works of Barnett et al. (https://web.archive.org/web/200708081825...0lions.pdfhttps://link.springer.com/article/10.100...017-1039-2), it appears that the closest African relative of the Asiatic lion is the Barbary lion of North Africa, which would make sense because it was this lion's range that was the closest to that of the Asiatic lion (which used to be in the Arabian Peninsula (https://archive.org/stream/naturalistsli...8/mode/2uphttps://archive.org/stream/journalofbomb...2/mode/2uphttps://books.google.com/books?id=TX7BmP...&q&f=falsehttps://books.google.com/books?id=GWslAA...on&f=false), connected to North Africa via the Sinai Peninsula): 
       

Otherwise, generally, the closest relatives of the Asiatic lions are the North and West African lions, and some lions in northern Central Africa and Northeast Africa (https://www.nature.com/articles/srep3080..._evolution):

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which is why the Cat Specialist Group (Pages 71−73: https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/hand...sAllowed=y) recognised lions in Asia and North, West and Central Africa as belonging to the subspecies Panthera leo leo, which I refer to as the "Northern lion group" or "Northern lion subspecies" for simplicity, but as mentioned here (https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-north-e...ican-lions), a thing to beware of is that a number of Central African lions, as shown by the work of Bertola et al. (https://www.nature.com/articles/srep3080..._evolution) and Barnett et al. (https://link.springer.com/article/10.100...017-1039-2), are more closely related to Southern African lions (Panthera leo melanochaita as per the Cat Specialist Group) than to the Northern lion group, so not all Central African lions are of the Northern subspecies (Panthera leo leo), with a number of them apparently belonging to the Southern subspecies (Panthera leo melanochaita), and it seems that the 2 subspecies overlap in northern parts of East Africa, including Ethiopia, which is why the CSG put a question mark over this area in their map of lion subspecies in page 72: https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/hand...sAllowed=y

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There are no current plans to bring, west/central african lions to india. Additionally the plan to relocate some lions from gir national park, to kuno is in limbo.
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Thanks for the responses ... thats a great genetic breakdown ... I hope that one day something will be done to strengthen the genetic stock of the Asiatic lions in India. .......... Im not sure what the hold up is with moving some to another park to relieve their population numbers but I hope the problem can be solved too ... there has to be a solution. But then again, it is an Asian country so solving conservation problems doesnt seem to be at the top of any of their lists.
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(06-11-2019, 03:36 PM)jordi6927 Wrote: Thanks for the responses ... thats a great genetic breakdown ... I hope that one day something will be done to strengthen the genetic stock of the Asiatic lions in India. .......... Im not sure what the hold up is with moving some to another park to relieve their population numbers but I hope the problem can be solved too ... there has to be a solution. But then again, it is an Asian country so solving conservation problems doesnt seem to be at the top of any of their lists.

Though Gujarat State has set up satellites of Gir Forest National Park, such as Devalia Safari Park (https://www.lonelyplanet.com/india/attra...137/356195),






to contain lions that can't fit in Gir Forest any more, Gujaratis, including Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi himself, are proud that the Asiatic lion has done well in Gujarat, so they see the lion as the "Pride of Gujarat", and they fear that lion-tourism in Gujarat, which is worth million of rupees, will suffer if lions are transferred elsewhere, so they don't want to transfer lions to Kuno-Palpur in the neighbouring state of Madhya Pradesh, despite the demand of the Indian Supreme Court back in 2013 to do so, the fact that Madhya Pradesh has taken steps like relocating more than 1,500 families in 24 villages outside Kuno to make space for the lions, the fact there was a recent outbreak of the canine distemper virus Asiatic lions, and it had killed 1,000 East African lions in the Serengeti region years ago (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...296056.cmshttps://www.asianage.com/india/all-india...tuary.htmlhttps://qz.com/india/1414444/why-are-ind...r-gujarat/), and the fact that to attract tourists to its new and huge "Statue of Unity", the World's tallest statue on the banks of the Narmada River, Gujarat State was happy to relocate 300 mugger crocodiles from the river, so that they wouldn't pose a threat to tourists (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47010656)!
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The pressure should be on to relocate some of the lions ... people will always travel to see them ... they arent thinking sensibly.
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(06-12-2019, 02:22 AM)jordi6927 Wrote: The pressure should be on to relocate some of the lions ... people will always travel to see them ... they arent thinking sensibly.

Moving lions out of the Gujarat would be akin to banning ownership of automatic rifles in Texas... easier said then done.
MP has to break the monopoly first by rewilding captive-bred lions & stop further begging, but exchange surplus lions for tigers in future. That's the only way...

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