Size comparisons

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(07-14-2019, 11:58 PM)Luipaard Wrote: I said that I didn't compare leopard skulls and jaguars directly becouse of obvious reasons. We have had this discussion before which is why I said that the leopard of skull KBIN 8640 is comparable in dimensions to large individual male jaguars from Pantanal and Llanos. I find it remarkable since jaguars are known to have massive, robust skulls. 

We can however, compare skulls of different leopard subspecies. As you can see in the list I shared, both Central African and Persian leopards from Iran dominate the list. You say Central African leopards weigh smaller than 80kg, yet there are weight measurements of Persian leopards who are in the 80+kg weight class

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6 males weighed more than 80 kg (excluding the infamous 115 kg male)

And here 2 males were weighed; 66 kg and 86 kg

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The reason why I'm sharing this is becouse Central African leopards have even bigger skulls than Persian leopards. How would the males weigh below 80 kg? 

Quote:Also, no skull shown is extraordinary when compared to an amazonian jag and no jag with equal skull measurements has exceeded 100kg and we all know Jags pack far more mass into their frame.

Well when looking at average skull measurements, yeah no Amazon jaguar or leopard will exceed 100 kg. But when looking at averages, they're close in terms of measurements:

• 6 adult male skulls from Gabon and the surrounding countries averaged 10.2 inches long and 6.6 inches wide (255.4 and 164.6mm)
• the average skull length and width is 262.7 and 175.9mm for adult male Amazon jaguars.
  

And when looking further:

Quote:"The average skull length of 7 mature male leopards from North Eastern Congo (DRC) was 261mm including two at 279mm and 282mm. Even more impressive a sample of 3 male leopard skulls from the coast of Gabon had an average length of 274mm with the largest at 282mm. While the Gabon sample is small and thus may not be reflective of the true average it is impressive nonetheless that such large skulls are present despite a very limited sample. For comparison the average skull length of 17 adult male jaguars from Venezuela was 282.2mm and 12 from the Mato Grasso area of Brazil averaged 282mm. On the other hand, the East African plains leopard or the Southern African leopard which we are used to seeing have an average skull length of about 230mm and only exceptional males reach 260mm."

I can see larger Central African leopards exceed 100 kg to be honest

Just look at this male, he's certainly big. How's he not going to weigh over 90 kg? I've seen many leopards like the famous Camp Pan male, Vin Diesel, Anderson, Tingana, Double Crossing male, ... the list goes on. All big males but literally none of them looks as big and robust as this male from Gabon:

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Just look at how massive his skull is

It would be nice to have sources for different charts, which you share. Link to source file or from what book chart has been copied? Time to time it´s interesting to read a bit more from different studies, that what is said there. Reply