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There are so many skulls with correlations that make no sense. The top skull of course is only an estimate so it needs to be removed from any claim.
Next is the fact that comparing a Leopard and Jaguar skulls to eachother is wrong since both show completely different correlations.
Also, no skull shown is extraordinary when compared to an amazonian jag and no jag with equal skull measurements has exceeded 100kg and we all know Jags pack far more mass into their frame.
The highest score on this limited list is a 19, I've already shown Leopards with scores 19 or above and yet none have exceeded 90kgs. Of course the skulls with larger scores have come from E. OR S. Africa as well and C. Africa too.
The fact is that Leopards have been weighed from all over c. And e. Africa, none have exceeded the 90kg category. With more specific measurements from the Congo basin showing weights smaller than 80kg. Imagine he was on the opposite side, like with los llanos Jags.
One study shows a 5kg difference and that somehow is conclusive that they are larger than Pantanal Jags yet with measurements of Congo basin leopards showing none exceeding the 80kg and that is meaningless?
Again this is my point, let's play by the same rules.
Jaguars with large skulls have weighed less than Jags with smaller skulls, what does that mean?
The same with leopards, but since that doesnt fit into his argument it's not used, I'll be happy to go through comparable skull and body dimensions again when I'm back but I feel as though it's just spinning my wheels at this point. Since there is no new info to present there really is no more debate to be had. We've both made our points and neither is willing to back down from them.