Size comparisons

[Luipaard]

Quote:I suggest you look up Peter Croshaw *sp*
He worked with Fonseco and knows far more and he also says Pantanal Jags are larger as well.

Why would I do that? Fonseco himself stated this: 

"He studies the interaction between jaguars and human populations and says that in the Pantanal, the jaguars reach 100 kilos. But the largest are in the Venezuelan cerrado. The biggest ever recorded was 140 KG, according to him."

Quote:skull sizes are larger

The chart proves otherwise; they overlap in size. Yet their average weight is a little bit higher; 104.5 kg vs 99.5 kg

Dated study or not. (which is ironic since you're the one who constantly focuses on that one study of Sri Lankan leopards where 11 males averaged 56kg. You claimed that Sri Lankans are not bigger than Indian or African leopards based on that one study).

Here's something interesting aswell regarding skull sizes (from The Jaguar, by Mondolfi and Hoojesteijn):

"Cranial measurements of seventeen adult male jaguars from Venezuela show that the average greatest length of skull (282.2 mm) is equal to the average (282 mm) of twelve males belonging to the southern race P.onca palustris (Pantanal jaguar)."

"Moreover the exceptionally big skull from Caño Agua Verde, State of Gúarico had a greatest skull length of 312.5 mm, slightly larger than the length (302 mm) of a large specimen of P.onca milleri (P.onca palustris)."

As far as I know, there's no scientific prove that Pantanal jaguars are larger than Venezuelan jaguars. So far it's been proven that the jaguars from Llanos average a little bit heavier.

So you have the experts from Pantanal claming that Pantanal jaguars are bigger vs scientific studies and Biologist Rogério Fonseca claiming otherwise. Reply