Size comparisons

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Sri Lanken Leopards are smaller than their African cousins, I've heard this from numerous people who've seen both. Persian leopards are large, absolutely but that doesnt stop most of them from being under 80kg, especially verified weights. Again, the 115kg claim is hardly valid for the numerous reasons stated. Of the 21 persians measured and the additional LM1, now 22 individuals the average is less than 65kg with the heaviest weighing 91kg, there's also a 99kg ove seen as well but I believe he was weighed in his cage which leaves room for error, so yes, 80-100kg is a freak leopard regardless of sub species. And most importantly, a Persian leopard is a completely different sub species while we're talking about African Leopards that live in the rain forest.

Skull size, I'd need to look into all skull to weight ratio to even compare but at a quick glance Pantanal and Venezual skulls will be wider at the same length and they are wider and longer overall. Between the pantanal and Venezuela you have an average of 290mm length and 194mm width so using one that's an outlier doesnt change the fact that the largest leopard skull ever measured still doesnt exceed average sized pantanal and Venezuela skull size. Also, why are you using Amazon jaguars to compare to leopard skulls when were talking about pantanal jags?
Amazon jags have much smaller dimensions.
Read post #24 here https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-modern-...ars?page=2
Look at the monster class skulls, look at how many there are over 12", it's not an uncommon occurence for them compared to it being almost unheard of leopards.

Sexual dimorphism is present amongst all cats, especially Panthera and no one panthera species is an outlier in this category, all show similar bw % differences.

You say you'd love to see the largest leopard vs largest jaguar, I Suggest you look up the 115kg,  pawless Persian leopard and compare him to some of the verified 110kg+ Jaguars and you will probably want to compare a different leopard.

I will say this, I absolutely think there are 100kg leopards throughout Africa and Asia but I also think those are extremely rare, it's as rare as a 150kg Pantanal Jaguar, which still maintains the size discrepancy I was speaking on. Jaguars will be 1.5 to 2 times the size *weight* of a Leopard. But of course a large leopard will overlap with Jaguars, but when the tables are even *outlier to outlier* you see the same descrepencies regardless. Reply