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(06-11-2021, 10:09 PM)Pckts Wrote: Using that example you must understand body type differences ( ectomorph, endomorph and mesomorph) and how a specific body type distributes weight. Even though you may be similar height, your "class mate" may carry his weight differently. Not to make it weird but if you were to stand side by side without clothes on, you'd be able to notice the weight distribution differences. Not to mention if you're in shape and weigh the same as him with him being out of shape, you would generally have a smaller waste, broader shoulders and more defined limbs while he would probably have a flabby stomach and carry more weight in his midsection.
Yes when we actually do sport at scholl and we have to change dresses we like compare to eatch other and his waists are much wider than mines, whereas i am bulk (I'll never cut I prefer bulk). So you're right on that we carry body mass in a different way.
(06-11-2021, 10:09 PM)Pckts Wrote: But like you said, we're talking about two cats that are very similar in dimensions but one *the jaguar* will have a larger chest and midsection with bigger limb girth and thus it's going to be the more robust cat. You can also tell that from when they lay flat, the Jaguar is bulkier, it's body sits higher off the ground while the Leopard sinks closer to the ground, it just doesn't have the same lb for lb muscle distribution that the Jaguar does.
Exactly, even though the two cats are about the same weight with one simple kg in favour of the leopard, the jaguar is still the builker one because its mass is accumulated in muscles, whereas the Persian leopard, living in a colder environment, might be that heavy also thanks to a little of fat accumulation just like North Emisphere cougars but that's only my opinion.
If you want another comparison, take example of Mawenzi, an 83 kg big male of Namibia. Look at its frame, an impressive male huh?
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Well, now compare it to this 85 kg jaguaress posted on “Modern weight and measurements for wild Jaguars”. Maybe it was even posted by you
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Even though the jaguaress is 2 kg heavier the difference in numbers is insignificant, the real difference is how the jaguaress is much more muscular.
About weight they are about equal but when you look at the jaguaress’ frame and biceps you see how she seems to outmuscle definitely Mawenzi even though she is JUST 2 kg heavier which is basically nothing.
If i didn't know her weight if you compared her to mawenzi i would have said she is 16 +kgs heavier just to show you the impression she gave to me.
So that's why I say that the 95 kg persian should be confirmed. After this comparison between Mawenzi and the 85 kg jaguaress you probably have no doubts that even if the jaguar will be definitely builker the leopard can still carry the same bodymass despite not being as much as muscular.
I guess we can all agree now
I absolutely agree, and the only reason I take issue with the Persian at all is because of the multiple weight discrepancies that have occurred over the years.