Size comparisons

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(06-17-2020, 11:17 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(06-17-2020, 11:07 PM)OncaAtrox Wrote:

(06-17-2020, 10:58 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(06-17-2020, 10:34 PM)OncaAtrox Wrote: @Pckts I'm not sure where the weight data was taken from, but body proportions seem reasonable. 230 kg in weight would've been more accurate.

It's a really short shoulder 2'9'' and TBL 8'6'' or 6'6'' HBL *Tails are usually 2' ish* but would realistically be longer than that with a longer Body Length. 

If it's 8'6'' HBL and an additional 2'3'' ish for a tail, that's a 10'9'' Cat which is considered a huge Tiger but very short in the shoulder.
That should reach 230kg no issue, but we'd have to know if they're talking about HBL or TBL.

It's hard to say because jaguar body proportions vary depending on individuals as well populations. For example, I've noticed that Llanos jaguars tend to have significantly longer tails than Pantanal jaguars normally, and in the case for mesembrina it's hard to gage what their exact proportions where when the fossil record is scarce. Jaguars in general do have shorter limbs than other large felids, so the height of 0.9 is pretty reasonable for an animal that packs weight in a more compact manner.

True about shoulder height but we don't know about Tail measurements.
But a Sumatran Tiger generally has a slightly larger shoulder height than a  Pantanal Jaguar at around 30'', but nothing drastic with overlapping weight, maybe a slight advantage for the S. Tiger.
So I think their mass distribution is similar, with a slight advantage to the Jaguar lb for lb. That being said, the only way a Jaguar would be near that 230kg mark with those dimensions would have to be an extremely long cat.
Either way, 230kg is possible but 270kg isn't IMO.

Yeah, I agree that 270 seems unlikely, at least with the fossil record we have. So far the highest value calculated for P. o. mesembrina is 243 kg. Reply