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(06-24-2017, 09:37 PM)Garfield Wrote: Cuz I mean, I saw this post by a guy Pckts, an he was sayin, he hadn't seen dat many captive lions and tigers, but yet he was assessin the differences between captive and wild, huh, then he said wild lions aren't that thick, whoa bro what, ok I mean yeah sure some aren't going to be, they don't all have the best nutrition like a captive dude, but Im sure of dis, there are some mother thick wild lions out there, I mean as stout as they come. When a wild lion is healthy an he eatin high of da hog, he ends up looking like a bulldozer.
A couple of things
I haven't seen many captive lions and tigers, but I have seen them up close and personal and the same as with wild counterparts so it's not like I'm coming from no where.
What I actually said was
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I have only seen a few captive lions and tigers and to be honest, I find it very difficult to compare them to their wild counterparts. Wild cats have individual characteristics that are raw, they are primal, they have a much harder look in their eyes, scars on their face and body and are much more active. The captive cats I have seen either seem to be lazy, stressed or completely out of it.
Physical differences are easier to describe,
Captive lions are probably heavier than the wild ones I saw but they certainly aren't stronger. Captive lions I have seen usually seem more robust but also have more fat, wild lions are lean, strong and powerful. It's hard to describe but when you see a wild lion, it's body looks beaten but from this beating it's gained strength, a captive lion looks soft, unchallenged and weak in comparison."
You have chosen to focus on the word "lean" and that is what you gravitated towards. I have seen arguably the most well nourished Lions in the world (ngorongoro crater) and full bellied Serengeti males, I know what they look like and how large they are and what I'm going to say next may not be the most popular statement around here but it's the truth.
We post these images, I like to call them "cherry picked" images because we choose the most flattering angles, best lighting or action shots and we gravitate towards them. They are the ones we post, the ones photographers post and so on. It's for good reason, people would rather be awestruck than disappointed, but we actually have taken 100s of shots of these animals and we comb through the images to find the most flattering shots and those are the ones we want to show. The truth is, when you see these animals in the wild, your first reaction is usually "I thought they'd be bigger" at least that was my reaction, but that probably has to do with the fact that I've seen so many photos of these giant cats for so long that it's jaded me. I'm sure if I'd never seen a Photo of the Notches, Mapogos, Crater Lions or Majingilanes, I would of been blown away by Lion Size. Same for tigers, If I never saw a photo of Jai, Munna, Wagdoh, Bamera, etc. I would of been blown away by the Tigers I saw as well. I'm not saying that either cat isn't a large creature, because it is and they are extremely powerful looking but to be honest, the only animals that are truly massive are prime Cape or Gaur, Hippo, Rhino and Elephant, everything else is big but nothing will take compare to the animals I just named, at least nothing that I have seen so far.
This is just my personal opinion on the matter and I know each person sees something different.