ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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01-06-2019, 04:57 PM

(01-06-2019, 10:10 AM)Greatearth Wrote:
(01-06-2019, 09:49 AM)Wolverine Wrote: I remember that as a child red in Red book of Soviet Union (from 1980's or 1970's) that even in pre-industrial age, before human colonization of RFE Amur tiger's population was assessed at around 700-900, there were never more than 700-900 wild tigers in what is today Russian Ussuriland. Amur tigers have never been numerous.

That's way we have to understand that there is only one true Kingdom of Tiger in this planet and this is INDIA. Tropical ecosystems are much more fertile than northern ecosystems, density of tropical tigers is 15-20 larger than dencity of Siberian tigers. In one small Kaziranga NP on territory of 430 sq.km. live 90 tigers while in gigantic Bikin NP with territory of 11 600 sq. km. live only 40-50 tigers.
Every square feet of Indian jungle is teeming with life, every square feet of Indian jungle is a diamond! @Rishi

Really? So Siberian tigers were always small numbers in Russia? 700-900 seems to be too small. Wouldn't be just in Ussuriland? How about other states in Russia? Moreover, places like Manchuria? I think Manchuria was once hold the highest populations of the Siberian tigers. Plus, many people also hunts their food like deer a lot in 20th century. Korea had a high density of tigers compared to its size.

I was always wondered that why tiger population was high in India even though they were exceptionally hunted just like in other Asia. It maybe different reasons. I don't know places like other South East Asia (India is also much larger than other SE Asia country). As for biodiversity, Indochina has much higher biodiversity than India. About population of large mammals seem to be different. However, I am curious why prey density in South East Asia is smaller than India.

China once had the Siberian tiger, Caspian tiger, South China tiger, Indochinese tiger, and Bengal tiger. China was also experienced different ecosystems throughout the times due to human impacts throughout each dynasties.
I am not sure how many tigers were in mainland China 100~150 years ago. I believe that Kingdom of Tiger was for both China and India, I would put more hand on China though. Difference is that chinese lost that title by themselves.

I am not quite sure, that what you mean here. Wolverine seemed to mention current area, where Amur tigers live. Still Amur tigers were in past and in present called Siberian tigers and their current range is only a fraction of it, what it was in past. There were tigers even around lake Baikal, when Russia was still ruled by Csar before Soviet Union. In that time there was for sure much much more, than only 700-900 tigers in Russia. But as Wolverine say, in current range of Amur tigers, that 700-900 could have been number of population back then.

We are talking about Amur tigers here, but it could be one discussion, that should it be after all called Siberian tiger so, that people would remember better about what we are talking about.

This map is from wikipedia, but it looks to be good enough for this purpose if someone is confused about situation back then in year 1900:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_t...ution3.PNG

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