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ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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( This post was last modified: 05-15-2018, 04:03 AM by Greatearth )

Did he (Varun Thakkar) actually measured Kingfisher, Umarpani, Wagdoh and Jai? Or he is claiming after seeing them?
It is the same as people who claiming Bengal tiger in Sundarban is the same size as Bengal tiger in mainland India. You can't really tell it by just watching them for a long time.
Post number #1,339 says 238 kg is official weight of Jai. I guess he can reach 270 kg if he eats crazy amount of food. 
Does anyone knows how much tiger weight is increasing if he eats a lot? 30kg or 40 kg?

I remember reading conversation. This Indian guy frequently going to tiger national parks. He said the biggest tiger ever he seen in Kanha was Konda, and Jai was the same size as him.
I don't know if he seen Wagdoh, but he thinks Wagdoh is probably bigger in body size and heavier while Jai and Konda are longer and maybe taller.
If you see Jai, he is definitely big in photo and video. But he doesn't really look extremely robust and muscular like Wagdoh. I think Wagdoh looks heavier and bigger in body size than Jai while Jai is indeed longer and taller.

Another fact is that it's impossible to tell who's the actually biggest. 2m tall guy can be lighter and smaller (body size like chest and muscle) than 180cm guy, but 2m is still taller than 180cm. It is the same for tiger, snow leopard, clouded leopard, cheetah, snow leopard, leopard, jaguar, puma, and other big cats. For example, I've seen and playing many street cats. One cat was longer and taller, but he was lighter than his 2 friends when I hold them. One was bigger in body size like chest and body, just shorter in length and height. Other is I don't know why he is heavier and smaller in every body size, maybe because he eats a lot.
I think Madla had bigger chest and neck than Sauraha, but wasn't he shorter in length and lighter than Sauraha? Madla had 160cm chest and 250 kg, and Sauraha was 140cm and 272kg when scientists measured him last time. A problem is that mammals like human and Felidae's metabolism becoming slow as they are getting older. That's why some older prime male tiger is generally heavier than when they are young. I think that's why Sauraha was 272 kg when biologists measured him last time. Madla could have been reached 272kg when if he was old tiger. Too bad that Madla just disappeared before he become old male tiger. I don't know about length besides Sauraha, but he had a long tail.

Another question is how come I do not hear 300 kg tigers in India and Nepal? There are records of 300kg male tigers in India 100 years ago.
I remember Peter said today's Bengal tigers in India and Nepal is heavier average weight than old Bengal tigers. It is because tigers in India and Nepal are living in good protected area while tigers in Sundarban (Bangladesh side) are living in difficult places due to poaching and other reasons. That's why I believe tigers in Sundarban may have been heavier and a little bit bigger 100 years ago (but still not as tiger in mainland India).
I guess Wagdoh would reach more than 300kg normally? Or he weight more than 300kg when he is gorged? But it is impossible to know unless human actually measures him.

How many tigers left in Umred Karhandla?? Jai brother was a lot smaller than Jai. Any individuals can grow big (I know can't denying gene). I am sure other tigers could grow big as Jai in future. I have a 150cm tall friend, but her brother is 206cm tall haha. It's the same for tigers unless entire subspecies population is dropping to 50, but that's not case in Bengal tiger subspecies. And I don't know what government, ranger, and conservation are doing. They should catch and kill poachers including their families to show punishment.
What's your guys have opinions of poachers? Should poacher should be killed? I do know poachers are very poor people and they are poaching animals to survive (this is the same for other Asian and African countries). I don't mind of killing poacher, but I also feel sorry for them because they are born as very poor life. While trophy hunter is born as money and these scums are killing any animals for fun. I don't really think this just catching poacher is the best choice to stop poaching. And a real problem is habitat destruction since human is increasing.
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RE: ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris) - Greatearth - 05-15-2018, 03:02 AM
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RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 07-28-2014, 09:32 PM
RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 07-29-2014, 12:26 AM
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RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 11-15-2014, 09:37 PM
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RE: Size comparisons - peter - 07-16-2019, 04:58 AM
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