ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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Quote:I seen many people exaggerated assam tiger in wildfact or other places by posting the same stuffs. Some people keep posting comparising chart, it is actually different when you see them in real life. Some people are writing tiger like Wagdoh, Jay, and Madla won't able to match against any male tigers in assam. Some people viewing assam/terai tiger as large and strong as the prehistoric Smilodon populator and American lion. Some people are even saying nonsense like assam tiger can take down indian rhino and asiatic elephant easily by 1 vs 1 match. People extremely overrating assam/terai tiger, so I highly doubt trusting assam tiger mentioning here. There is one phd biology student in my university from assam state, but he doesn't believe tiger in assam is bigger than the Siberian tiger.

that's not really an argument, also nobody in their right mind would bother taking any of the stuff that you highlighted for granted. name one credible person from wildfact that thinks Assam/Terai tigers compare with smilodon or the American lion. quit reading garbage on the internet. you are basing everything off a few bad examples but that's besides the point. the topic here is size and weight. Assam/Terai tigers have always been the largest in the modern history. 

Quote:There is one phd biology student in my university from assam state, but he doesn't believe tiger in assam is bigger than the Siberian tiger.

you realize in the last 50 years, most male Siberians caught in the wild were nowhere close to the sizes of Bengals. you know absolutely nothing. throw away your scientific literature, novels and books that still state that "Siberian tigers are the largest". this is nothing short of a science fiction. 

Quote:Is there any reliable size record in assam tigers by biologist, especially these days? We don't even know exact weight, length, height of tiger like Wagdoh. I seen peter posted size charts of terai tiger from early 1900s. 

Quote:I remember I read it from some discussions in wildfact. I agree with one person said if they were a real biggest one, then it should have already been changed in a journal long time ago.

Unfortunately there are no recent measurements or records but that doesnt change anything, statements from some of the best tiger scientists in India are enough, also in camera trap photos. they set the records straight. Dr.Ullas Karanth saw his biggest tiger in Kaziranga, Dale Miquelle in one of his email showed a great interest in this particular group. Kanwar Juneja who has been on a global wide tiger campaign for several decades also stated that Kaziranga and the tigers of the North are in a league of their own. lack of research and data doesnt mean you shy away from the obvious. this is reality. you cant run away from it.

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Another thing is that there are plenty large prey animals in Assam unlike many other areas today: indian rhino, gaur, water buffalo, and other large animals. These animals, especially rhino was wide spread entire north India. And other large animals were also highly overpopulated in entire India and Asia. I am sure you could find many places that were the same as assam in other parts of india before 1850s. Sumatran rhino and javan rhino was also occurred in eastern India as well. Especially, many people here just view as weight to determine which one is larger. If you relocated assam and terai tigers to northeastern Asia and their size will be different after 2nd generations. Assam tiger would never grow that big and heavy size as in their habitat if you relocate them in a place where prey is totally depleted.

you're right, Assam has plenty of large herbivores. the Indian Rhino, Asiatic Water Buffalo, Gaur (some parts) and plenty of other animals. It's a tiger paradise, thats why they are the largest/heaviest with the only rivals being the Terai group. what living conditions did Manchurian tigers have in the 1900s? how are they bigger? how are they the largest? this is all questionable. 

Quote:If you relocated assam and terai tigers to northeastern Asia and their size will be different after 2nd generations. Assam tiger would never grow that big and heavy size as in their habitat if you relocate them in a place where prey is totally depleted.

Ofcourse but what does this have anything to do with the topic on hand, toss the old Manchurian bloodline from the early 1900s in the same environment and the results would be the same. I dont understand you.  Reply