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ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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( This post was last modified: 09-20-2017, 07:02 AM by peter )

(09-20-2017, 05:35 AM)Greatearth Wrote: That article posted by Peter. I think It's a good paper. However, I can't accept and absolutely disagree with that CAT SPECIALIST GROUP paper.
https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/hand...sAllowed=y


There is still debating on how to distiniguish species and subspecies. So it may have been true about tiger subspecies are 2. However, it shoudln't be allowed to crossbreed the tiger subspecies that is further from habitat. They need to crossbreed with geologically closer subspecies.

For example, 
The Siberian tiger should crossbreed with the South China tiger or Caspian tiger (Caspian are extinct anyway).
The South China tiger should crossbreed with the Siberian tiger or Indochinese tiger.
The Indochinese tiger should crossbreed with the Bengal tiger and Malayan tiger
The Malayan tiger should crossbreed with the Indochinese tiger and maybe Sumatran tiger (I don't know how much crossbreed between those 2 subspecies)
The Bengal tiger should crossbreed the Indochinese tiger.
The Sumatran tiger should crossbreed with the Javan tiger and maybe Malayan tiger
If extinct Javan tiger and Bali tiger were still alive. Then Bali tiger should crossbreed with the Javan tiger only. The Javan tiger could crossbreed with


Beside all of those people members were from Western Europe (looks like mostly UK) , USA, Japan, and other country who used to colonized and murdered tons of animals and humans in past. These people were responsible for corrupting governments in many other continents and making many animals to extinct in first place. Now, they are always blaming people in Asia and Africa for not saving animals in media. I seen it so much they're writing racist things to Asian and African whenever it is about conservation issue. Now, these people are going to mess up the nature order by making hybrid animal in different continents just like they used to extinguish many animals 100 years ago? This shouldn't be allowed. How about they should worry about animals in their place first if they are going to obsessed and keep messing up with animals in another continent/country . I hope Asian governments doesn't allow introducing worthless hybrid tigers to their nature and making more difficult for letting those people to study tigers in their country..

I am worry that those people are going to sending the Bengal tigers in India/Nepal to Malaysia and northeastern China. Then making bunch of worthless hybrid tigers and destroying natural order. Not just the tiger, all of Feline and animals!! It should be only crossbreed with geologically closer animal. I also noticed zoo is ignorant and making bunch of hybrid animal subspecies before: I saw one zookeeper was mixing Sri lankan elephant with elephant from Thailand. Entire nature is becoming insane since 19th century.
Look what happened to Guam island, New Zealand, Florida, Hawaii, Galapagos, and many other places. Many of endemic animals in these places were destroyed by human by introducing alien animals or invasive species.

GREATEARTH

I posted the link to the article in order to inform those interested. We need to know about the latest developments. Doesn't mean all researchers agree on two tiger subspecies and doesn't mean I agree.

I propose to use the article to start a discussion. In order to do so, we need to remove anything that could block a free exchange of ideas. Strong opinions definitely do not qualify, as they often are related to some kind of fundamentalism. 

As to the remark on bias raised in your post. I'm not saying that inequality isn't an issue in the western hemisphere (it is), but it shouldn't be discussed in this thread. Anything not related to tigers doesn't belong here. The aim is to focus on the tiger, not something else.  

As to the new proposal on tiger subspecies. The authors clearly stated that opinions differ in this respect. If you want to debate subspecies, use arguments. The reason is arguments can be discussed, accepted or rejected. Opinions can not.  

Please edit your last post and concentrate on arguments.
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RE: ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris) - peter - 09-20-2017, 06:50 AM
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