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ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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(03-22-2020, 11:53 AM)peter Wrote: FEROCE

a - About the Premier League 
 
The Premier League is a quality information section. The information posted in this section has to be solid, that is. In order to prevent misinformation, members need permission to post in this section. You had no permission. You could have known if you would have read the forum rules before you joined or contacted a mod before posting. 

b - About your contribution 

The information you posted was discussed in the former AVA Forum (Yuku) some years ago. Those involved in the debate concluded the information you reposted in this thread (referring to the first and last post) was unreliable. Your interpretation of the second post was incorrect. Meaning your contributions didn't meet the threshold.  

c - About your first post

The report about the 2 tigresses allegedly killed by bears is suspect. In order to find out more, visit the forum AVA Forum of Yuku (now Tapatalk). There's a thread titled 'Male brown bears are not out of the predatory reach of male tigers if of similar size'. That's the one you need to read. 

Some time after the debate, an article about Aldrich footsnares was posted on a Russian forum. It was written by 2 researchers involved in the Siberian Tiger Project (STP). The article, in English, was discussed at AVA. 

There is a connection between that article and the report about the 2 Amur tigresses found in the snow. My advice is to find the article. It has a lot of information. Most of it was never discussed.    

d - About your second post

It's about the sentence " ... the circumstances of their deaths varied: 3 tigers died from wounds received in fights, one each with a bear, another tiger and a wild boar ... " (quote from your second post). 

Translation. Three tigers died from wounds received in fights with a bear, a tiger and a wild boar. This means one tiger died of wounds received in a fight with a bear. Not three. As there's no information about the animals involved in the fights, we don't know if the tiger killed by a bear was a male or a female.  

Meaning your interpretation is incorrect. Furthermore, it's clear you connected a remark about the gender of 8 tigers (3 of which were females) to the sentence quoted above. The result is misinformation. 

e - About your third post 

Amur tiger 'Dale' hunted bears. With 'bears', I mean youngsters and adult females. The largest female brown bears he killed were estimated at 150-200 kg. Tiger 'Dale' was weighed 3 times. He ranged between 170-205 kg., meaning he killed adult female brown bears of almost his own weight. Also meaning he didn't hunt  " ... bears almost twice as heavy ... " (quote from your post) as he was. 

Meaning the information in the book you used was incorrect. You could have known if you would have tried to find out a bit more about this particular tiger.

f - Conclusions

It's clear you didn't read the forum rules. It's also clear you didn't contact a mod before posting in this thread. The result is you polluted a good thread. Your posts will be deleted. 

I don't want you to post in this thread again. As you also ignored forum rules, my advice is to join another forum.

Those postings are now deleted. I would add this much, we have own thread(s) for bear and tiger interactions. Even though these postings, which Peter mentioned were visible only for moderators, they had nothing new what comes to brown bears and Amur/Siberian tigers interactions. Interest for these two big predatory species co-existing is understandable, but old information has been posted here and there countless times and has frankly speaking nothing to offer for people who have had interest for that issue, at least what comes to aggressive confrontations.

People who have interest can find older discussions from this thread and from threads which actually are meant for information about bear-tiger interactions. I would add also it, if someone one day come up with something new, published late 2019 or 2020, post by all means, but in right thread as @peter said it very clearly. This thread has a lot of quality information and the less pointless debates here, the better.
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RE: ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris) - Shadow - 03-22-2020, 12:47 PM
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RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 07-28-2014, 09:32 PM
RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 07-29-2014, 12:26 AM
RE: Tiger Data Bank - peter - 07-29-2014, 06:35 AM
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RE: Tiger recycling bin - Roflcopters - 09-05-2014, 12:31 AM
RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 11-15-2014, 09:37 PM
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RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 11-15-2014, 11:03 PM
RE: Tiger Data Bank - Apollo - 02-19-2015, 10:55 PM
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RE: Tigers of Central India - qstxyz - 04-13-2018, 08:04 PM
RE: Size comparisons - peter - 07-16-2019, 04:58 AM
RE: Amur Tigers - peter - 05-20-2021, 06:43 AM
RE: Amur Tigers - Nyers - 05-21-2021, 07:32 PM
RE: Amur Tigers - peter - 05-22-2021, 07:39 AM
RE: Amur Tigers - GuateGojira - 04-06-2022, 12:29 AM
RE: Amur Tigers - tigerluver - 04-06-2022, 12:38 AM
RE: Amur Tigers - tigerluver - 04-06-2022, 08:38 AM
RE: Amur Tigers - tigerluver - 04-06-2022, 11:00 PM
RE: Amur Tigers - peter - 04-08-2022, 06:57 AM



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