Freak Felids - A Discussion of History's Largest Felines

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The link doesn't work, but I found this one there: http://theworldofanimals.proboards.com/t...llTo=19471

@Vodmeister, which is my friend too, is INCORRECT this time.

There is no such thing as an average of 235 kg for the Ngandong tiger, where did Vodmeister get that???[img]images/smilies/huh.gif[/img]  That is the average of the male Bengal tigers from Nepal (Smith et al. 1983).

There are only 7 specimens of Ngandong tigers available, all of them fragmentary (although complete in they single form), from different individuals and from different sexes, there are three carnassial teeth, one single skull, one mandible, two humerus and the huge femur (I repeat, none of them from the same specimen). Using the formulas of Van Valkenburg (1990), Legendre & Roth (1988), Sorkin (2008) and Christiansen & Harris (2005; 2009), the smallest and the largest Ngandong specimen were of 143 - 368 kg (smallest female - largest male, respectively). As you can see, the figure of 235 kg is incorrect (where it came from?), as it use all the specimens without discriminating the age or sex.

On the other hand, the average figure of 255 kg for Panthera atrox is only for MALES. The smallest male was of 199 kg and the largest of 351 kg. That is a completely different form, because Christiansen & Harris (2009) do manage to classify only the males, so its average is correct.

@brotherbear, check this topic, here are the full calculations from all the available specimens of the Ngandong tiger. Apart from them, there are no new specimens reported: http://animalbattle.yuku.com/topic/21/bo...ISC_skXK7U

Special view on post 91, there are the weights and the full chart.

Finally, there is no such thing as an average of 235 for Ngandong tigers. In fact, if we use only the large specimens, estimated to be "males", the average will be of 274.6 kg (n=5; range 222.5 - 368.2 kg). Hope this helps to clarify the issue. [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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