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B2 and Other Great Tiger Pics from India
B2 and Other Great Tiger Pics from India
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B2 and Other Great Tiger Pics from India
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Sorry for the repost
Trying to post the picture of this massive tiger. Are 250 kilos a possibility in this case?  (03-20-2015, 08:57 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:"Trash science"(03-19-2015, 10:03 PM)'Roflcopters' Wrote: Guate and Pckts, can you guys just stop responding to each other.. it's not doing any good to the topic and we both know that you guys had this argument before in the past. Also, lovely pictures of T24! Tfs [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]Sorry Roflcopters, but everytime that a crazy person would try to trash Science, I will rise to defend her, with direct evidence, like I have showed in my post with more than five documents specifically about radiocollaring tigers and other great cats. haha Pathetic... Feel free to post in the Hands off thread where there is overwhelming proof against collaring.... weird that I need to tell a mod to do that [img]images/smilies/dodgy.gif[/img] (03-20-2015, 09:16 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:(03-20-2015, 12:29 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: Corbett's idea that "man eaters" are old or injured, was obviously a fabrication to use for him to act like the "good guy" when killing these massive and beautiful animals. While some predations on man are from old or injured that may only be because man is slow, his senses are dull, he is easy prey.Dr Sunquist, and by extension the entire Scientific community, disagree with you. Check this out, from the book "Wild Cats of the World" of 2002, the full section of "Conflict with humans". Check specially page 365: You mean the case of T24 AND T42? and 20 other people killed by tiger attacks last year in india http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-31529989 and a nice account of a 4 year old female http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/26/world/asia...gue-tiger/ (4 years old is a prime specimen btw) That was why I said we should start a thread on it. There are lots of people who are attacked by tigers every year, many don't fit Corbetts claim. So proof is there, it deserves to be looked in to. Simple as that......  (03-16-2015, 09:09 AM)'Roflcopters' Wrote: It's the end of the robe for Gabbar aka Leopard Face male tiger, another fight with Katezari male and another serious injury with heavy limping. i feel very sad for gabbar. in fact i am going to tadoba next weekend for 4 days, 7 safaris. i want see him. by the way any news how is katezari after this fight? 
I haven't seen an actual photo of Katezari after this fight but someone sighted him recently and he seemed fine, He's also moving with Maya now, which tells me that Gabbar just lost a female and is at the verge of losing his entire territory. Katezari male seems very determined to eliminate him. they've fought like twice within a month frame and both times Gabbar had it the worse.. I just hope the forest department intervenes and treats his wounds before they get infected. And goodluck with your Tadoba trip, should be fun! Tadoba is reigning with tigers right now. Keep us updated ! [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
 (03-20-2015, 07:43 PM)'Pckts' Wrote:You are trashing Science, that is a fact here. I posted more than five scientific documents and you completely ignore them!!!(03-20-2015, 08:57 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:"Trash science"(03-19-2015, 10:03 PM)'Roflcopters' Wrote: Guate and Pckts, can you guys just stop responding to each other.. it's not doing any good to the topic and we both know that you guys had this argument before in the past. Also, lovely pictures of T24! Tfs [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]Sorry Roflcopters, but everytime that a crazy person would try to trash Science, I will rise to defend her, with direct evidence, like I have showed in my post with more than five documents specifically about radiocollaring tigers and other great cats. You insist posting your lies and/or exaggerations here, that is a pathetic intent to attack the real people that fight and even risk they lives saving the great cats in the world. You are a shame for those that want to save the great cats, creating lies and spreading attacks against scientists and discrediting they methods. Real experts like Dr Rabinowits and Dr Hunter are very disappointing for this type of attitude against Science: "It is discouraging that we are often portrayed as ‘heartless scientists’ interested only in data, when in fact, every one of Panthera’s biologists works on wild cats because we treasure them deeply. By undertaking rigorous science, we hope to ensure their persistence so that future generations can also treasure them" Words of Dr Luke Hunter, president of Panthera. Source: http://www.panthera.org/node/1564 (03-20-2015, 07:48 PM)'Pckts' Wrote:Did you actually READ the images that I posted here??? You like to disagree with me, but you never do it correctly, as you never read what I post, despite the fact that it is from a Scientific and reputable source.(03-20-2015, 09:16 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:(03-20-2015, 12:29 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: Corbett's idea that "man eaters" are old or injured, was obviously a fabrication to use for him to act like the "good guy" when killing these massive and beautiful animals. While some predations on man are from old or injured that may only be because man is slow, his senses are dull, he is easy prey.Dr Sunquist, and by extension the entire Scientific community, disagree with you. Check this out, from the book "Wild Cats of the World" of 2002, the full section of "Conflict with humans". Check specially page 365: You only quote that 20 people were attacked in India, but you omitt the part that those were in diferent areas and diferent reasons, not all of them by predation. Corbett "claims" are not based in random observations but in a great experience observing tigers in the wild and he is considered an autority, even by modern scientists. Learn to read before to comment Pckts, this is not the first time that I say this to you.
To all posters, this is a free forum and like any forum, it can be seen by any person in the internet.
However, is very disturbing that some people insist in attacking other points of view and discarding the evidence presented against they cases, specially when they are professionals. The point of this forum is to attract professionals that could share they knowledge on the field, but this constant attacks against them are counterproductive. I have received a personal communication from a scientists (not very famous here) that feels that this type of attitude is offensive and don't wish to continue visiting us anymore (he ask me not to show his email). This is very disturbing, as I will prefer to loose a hundred of photographers but not a person like him. This was the straw that broke the camel. [img]images/smilies/angry.gif[/img] This could be called "collateral damage", I will call it a stupid effect of biased people against science. When the evidence is presented and ignored, you realize that a clean debate can't be made. Following the advice of a dear friend, I will not answer to Pckts anymore, as there is no point to show data, documents and direct testimonies, if is going to be ignored. Conclusions? I leave it to the posters, the data is here, read it and judge by yourself. I will return to my original issues, which are tiger evolution, morphology and other topics on other animals. Have a nice day. 
The 'debate' on collars and biologists has been concluded. PC was warned and is now enjoying a nice vacation.
The staff offer their apologies to those who felt insulted as a result of the exchange. On behalf of the owners and all mods, Peter. (03-22-2015, 10:11 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:When did I say his claims were not founded?(03-20-2015, 07:48 PM)'Pckts' Wrote:Did you actually READ the images that I posted here??? You like to disagree with me, but you never do it correctly, as you never read what I post, despite the fact that it is from a Scientific and reputable source.(03-20-2015, 09:16 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:(03-20-2015, 12:29 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: Corbett's idea that "man eaters" are old or injured, was obviously a fabrication to use for him to act like the "good guy" when killing these massive and beautiful animals. While some predations on man are from old or injured that may only be because man is slow, his senses are dull, he is easy prey.Dr Sunquist, and by extension the entire Scientific community, disagree with you. Check this out, from the book "Wild Cats of the World" of 2002, the full section of "Conflict with humans". Check specially page 365: I simply said there are instinces where the Idea of maneaters only being "old, wounded etc" are not exactly true. I respect Corbett, but he is a hunter, he is obviously going to be slightly bias. I NEVER said he isn't a helpful and insightful person to use when studying tigers, did I? I posted a couple of links of proof, where that idea exists. PROOF: I:e T24, t42, 4 year old female etc. (I guarantee I can find many more if I searched for 10 mins) Then the 20 people being killed in india last year, was used to show that we there are tons of maneaters out there that you don't even hear about hence why I stated that the thread deserves a place and PROOF should be posted there.  
Ok guys, time to get back to topic.
T19 with her 3 cubs.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Rajbhera subadult from Bandhavgarh  *This image is copyright of its original author Tiger from Kaziranga  *This image is copyright of its original author Mom with 4 cubs from Tadoba  *This image is copyright of its original author Khumba from Ranthambore  *This image is copyright of its original author |
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