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The Mighty Mapogos

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( This post was last modified: 12-23-2015, 02:56 PM by LionKiss )

thanks again John for your input.

it will nice to create a CV type of info for the Mapogos,
for example
Year and  place of birth,
where they spent their life as cubs,
when they expelled from the pride,
where they were roaming before they start claiming territories,
what prides they conquered
how they expanded
etc

here is a rather heroic video about them




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and here is a copy/paste from a youtube video description section

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MAPOGO COALITION also known as Mapogo Males/Eyrefield Males/Sparta Males
Mapogo Coalition - 6 Male Lions also known as the Eyrefield Males, the Sparta Males and in some regions the "Cannibals" They were named Mapogo after a security company that utilizes rather harsh methods in dealing with offenders. We've found several different meanings for Mapogo. Ulusaba refers to it as meaning "Vigilantes" and Savanna Lodge refers to the Mapogo name being a Zulu word meaning "Rogues". What ever the meaning, they are Bad News!
Pride they Originated From: Eyrefield Pride aka Sparta Pride This pride still exists and consists of 3 adult females and 9 cubs. Two of the remaining Eyrefield pride lionesses are siblings of the Mapogos and the third and oldest lioness may very well be the Mother to some of them. The dominant male of this Pride today is the one remaining Roller Coaster/Shaw/Castleton Male.
Sired by: A Coalition of 5 Male Lions known as The West Street Males aka The Sparta Males. (Note: There is a twist to this story that we will share a little later.) These males took over the Eyrefield/Sparta pride from the Manyeleti males in 1998. They were approximately 8 yrs of age at the time and successfully raised many cubs to adulthood during their reign. The last of this coalition died in 2004 at the approximate age of 14 years or even older (some reports indicated the last two were plus/minus 16 yrs in 2003 when two of the original four Marthly/Split Rock/Robson males moved in).
The Oldest Mapogo Male is said to be unrelated to the other 5. The story is that the original pride (Eyrefield/Sparta) lost a male sub adult of 20 to 21 months of age in May/June 2000 and in July 2000 this male of about the same age latched on to the original pride. Though not readily accepted by the lionesses, the West Street Males barely tolerated him though they did not kill him as he was no threat to their dominance due to his age.
His life was not an easy one as he was considered an outcast, yet this young lion became one of the boldest and most valued hunters by helping to keep the pride fed when the West Street males became too old.
Londolozi refers to the oldest Mapogo male as "Ngalalalekha". Ngala means lion so does lalekha mean "old, older, oldest"? Good question for Rexon. Another name for this male is "Ngalagalega" said to mean "The Lonely Lion".
This oldest Male is elusive. He is said to be bigger, bolder and darker than the other five. He is believed to be the sire of most of the Mapogo cubs that have been born so far but with more recent reports of matings it seems some of the other males will become fathers too if not already. (Note: See section on Cubs Sired by Mapogos Below)
One story about this older Mapogo male that sticks out in our minds is when Londolozi reported a sighting of two hyena clans on a buffalo carcass. A group of approximately 25 adult elephants standing shoulder to shoulder with little ones behind them were staring the hyenas down. A noise was heard behind the vehicle and when the spotlight was shown in that direction an "enormous" male lion burst into their sight roaring louder than any roar they had ever heard before which sent 30 hyenas scattering. It was the leader of the six Mapogos. He stared down the wall of elephants which after about 5 minutes of standing their ground finally gave way to the lone male and moved off.
The Older and currently the Dominant Male of the Coalition is easily identified by his broken right canine tooth.
The Other 5 Mapogo Males are said to be sired by the West Street Males but here is where the twist comes in...... the two youngest might have been sired by the Roller Coaster Males aka Shaw Males aka Castleton Males. The Roller Coaster males were believed to have started out as a Coalition of 6. Four of which enticed some of the Eyrefield/Sparta females into mating with them while the aging West Street males were away from the pride. Thus it is unclear who actually fathered the two youngest. And to add another little twist, it is said that the West Street Males who sired the Mapogos also fathered the Roller Coaster/Shaw/Castleton males.
Estimated ages of the Mapogo Coaliton as of Dec 2010:
Older Unrelated Male 12 yrs 2 mos (Makhulu/Big Mak/Bob Marley/Ngalagalega the Oldest)
Two Older Related Males 9 yrs 11 mos (Some call the Twins - T2/Pretty Boy/Skorro/Bent Spine and brother Red/Rasta/Leonides)
One a Little Younger Male 9 yrs 9 mos (Dreadlocks/Snip Tail/Scar - missing end of tail tuft, scar through nose)
Two youngest males (Kinky Tail/Shaka and Mr T/Mohawk/Satan - possibly sired by the Roller Coaster Males) 9 yrs 1 mo (The two youngest are distinguished from the others by their immature manes sporting mohawk style look to them. Sometimes referred to Mr T and T2 on some reserves with Mr T being known as Satan due to his aggression towards other lions/lionesses/cubs and his willingness to initiate a fight.

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I was wondering if someone could gather all this info and that posted by @John21, @sanjay, @majingilane and others and make a more complete story
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These are not the Mapogos. These males are called Gomondwane males, I think one of them was killed by a buffalo.
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could someone confirm that this is an original video, and the cubs that appear are Mapogo's cubs?






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Quote:could someone confirm that this is an original video, and the cubs that appear are Mapogo's cubs?
Yes. You can see it in the description: 
Ximhungwe lionesses forming a formidable force to protect their cubs against the Selati/male who had just killed one of the dominant males( Mr T) and driven the other two(Makhulu and Pretty boy) out the territory.
And also in the date of the video, March 22nd 2012, that would be 6 days later after the killing of Mr.T and the takeover.

Nice find LionKiss, it's the first time I see this video.
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( This post was last modified: 01-04-2016, 09:56 PM by LionKiss )

Kinky Tail (Mapogo coalition/Mlowathi male) probably mating with Snaggletooth lioness from the Nkuhuma Pride (Panthera leo krugeri)

Mala Mala, South Africa

Credits: Wim van den Heever
https://www.facebook.com/theworldoflions...=3&theater


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@LionKiss, thanks for the video, always enjoy seeing the females defend their cubs.
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( This post was last modified: 01-05-2016, 05:29 PM by LionKiss )

(01-05-2016, 09:50 AM)TheLioness Wrote: @LionKiss, thanks for the video, always enjoy seeing the females defend their cubs.

me too @TheLioness, female lions can get very aggressive when their cubs are in danger, but in pride takeovers they eventually submit to the new males as it happened with those we see in that video. It is tragic that all those 4 cubs about 5 months old were killed by the Selati males and they must be Mr. T's cubs.

At 0:17 they are all together in a very high alert status,
at 0:25 the cubs realized that the approaching male is not their dad (Mr.T) and they run to take hide, one of them (the one on the far right hand side of the screen) stayed a little longer, he started running at 0:34, I would speculate and say that he must be the son of Mr.T
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Dreadlocks, Mapogo coalition (Panthera leo krugeri)

Sabi Sand, South Africa

Credits: Unknown


https://www.facebook.com/theworldoflions...71/?type=3


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The King teaching the youngster. 
You still have a lot to learn, my young padawan...
Makhulu and Mr.T



Click on it to view the video.
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an unbelievable photo, Rasta a little sedated


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You're welcome buddy. I have the names of the prides they controlled. It's 8 prides if I remember correctly. 

Their empire was definitely massive. The only coalition to match such an amazing rule is the Notch coalition. Although the Notches are in Masai Mara.
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( This post was last modified: 01-27-2016, 06:11 AM by peter )

I don't think I was there to say hello when you joined. Same for Sanjay. Unfortunately, he's busy. Family business and not good.

Anyhow. Thanks for joining. 

Your contributions are much appreciated. They seem to be straight from the lion's den.

I read about the difference between lions up north and those in the south. Many died from a disease. Maybe you know more about it? Thanks in advance,

Peter.
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Can you handle the Shaka stare?...
Kinky tail

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( This post was last modified: 01-27-2016, 11:22 PM by LionKiss )

KT was the most emotional mapogo, just see him in this fb profile, he is drinking water and turns his eyes to watch Mr.T his younger twin brother
https://www.facebook.com/The-Mapogos-Lio...3/?fref=ts


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One question Ι would like to ask,

The 5 Mapogos had 5 female sisters, there were 10 altogether,

what happened to the 5 lionesses, what coalition did they mate with?
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