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09-26-2020, 07:01 PM( This post was last modified: 09-26-2020, 07:03 PM by Dark Jaguar )
(09-26-2020, 06:53 PM)Balam Wrote:
(09-26-2020, 06:45 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:
(09-26-2020, 06:39 PM)Balam Wrote:
(09-26-2020, 06:35 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: The cerrado jaguars table will be down to 13 individuals, Hopefully in the future we'll get more cerrado males, I still didn't give up to find out Rogério size as we already know he is in the 100's kg range.
I'm guessing some males are being repeated, let me know so we can make the changes. It'd be amazing not only to get Rogerio's but also that cattle-killing male I mentioned to you a couple of months ago. I'm aware that convincing IOP to release this data will be hard, but hopefully we can get it.
the Cerrado males to be removed are the ones IDed as 151.633 (2), 150.260 (2) and Macharão (2).
Could you believe I even tried to get cerrado jaguars size like Rogério,Patrícia,Ariane... by the vet guy from IOP ??
but I got nothing.
Its incredible how hard it is to get info from them, its almost impossible.
that cerrado male captured in 2014 with the carcass is definitely larger than Tiago IMO.
With the deduction of the repeated captures the average is 100 kg, which I think is accurate for this population and not for Pantanal ones as some people keep trying to push (but let me not get into this again lol). Anyways, let's hope for more weights to be released so this table can fill up nicely.
Btw, if you are frustrated by the secrecy of IOP, imagine how I'm feeling after trying for months to get the weights for Aurora jaguars from Panthera and them refusing to provide them, it's killing me, I want to start working on the Llanos table immediately.
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What surprises me the most above all this is that the weight is just the basic data, there's no harm letting other people know it, they could just answer by taping the number of the weight of the animal like ''***kg'' and thats all, thats all we want. its so simple but yet we get refused by most in every way by unknown reasons (maybe bad mood?? ).
Even at title with the animal there's no harm saying how many kg it weighed. Many years back I thought getting the weight of the captured animals would be the easiest data to get for being the basic one, but I was wrong.
But I am not giving up and I'll bombard them with these same questions as much as possible until they release it. Even already knowing they won't.