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Girth Comparaison of Animals

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(04-02-2018, 11:12 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Weight has absolutely nothing to do with comparing two species for chest and neck girth. With both being the same in bipedal height, naturally the one with the greater girth is going to be heavier. But, this is the ONLY way for a fair comparison. Either go with bipedal height or head and body length; as you said pckts, pretty much the same thing. 
Polar - about squares and rectangles... the bear appears more square because of his greater girth.

Of course it does, how else can you determine girth without measuring at the same weight or calculating them accordingly.

That certainly isn't the "only" fair way, in fact, I think most would agree that the lb for lb measurement is much more fair. 
It's the same as me saying "shoulder measurement" is the only fair way... They have different skeletal structures and thus their measurements will not be conducive to a fair measurement.

I'm going to try this one more time but after that I don't think it will matter.
Ok, here we go.

The Bear Weighs 200kg and is a full grown adult in his prime. 

The Tiger Weighs 200kg and is a full grown adult  in his prime.

@Polar said "At 200-kilograms (about average for tiger and bear?), both would be similar at shoulder height (bear probably 1-2 inches taller on all fours, but insignificant), but the bear is a little shorter in head-body length, much more wider regarding shoulder-to-shoulder and neck circumference. Chest and arm circumference is bigger in bear too but not to the extent of its shoulders or neck." Post #46

and you wrote in post #51 "When you look at them from various angles, then you clearly see that a big cat cannot match a grizzly in girth of chest or neck."

So how would we come to a conclusion for the statements above?


Now lets look at one of your bears you posted...

"The largest captured male (784) was 13 years and the

 weight,

 height  at shoulder, 152 cm

total

length, 264 cm; 



 chest girth, 159cm

body length, 140cm; 
*Note: Grizzly boar: neck girth - 90 cm ( 35.43 inches ) - chest girth 159 cm ( 5 feet 3 inches )."

So let compare this Bear to the Largest tiger we can find with measurements available


*This image is copyright of its original author

The bear listed above is almost 100kg heavier or about 27% heavier, so if we're to increase the Tigers measurements 27% or so, to make him equal to the bear in weight, he'd actually have a larger chest and neck girth.
The body length would also be longer in the tiger but the shoulder height would be shorter and this is normal since that is how Big cats and Bears are built.
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RE: JUST QUEST - Pckts - 03-29-2018, 06:22 AM
RE: JUST QUEST - brotherbear - 03-29-2018, 07:02 AM
RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-29-2018, 06:45 AM
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RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-30-2018, 01:54 PM
RE: JUST QUEST - Polar - 03-30-2018, 04:13 PM
RE: JUST QUEST - brotherbear - 03-30-2018, 03:53 PM
RE: JUST QUEST - Pckts - 03-30-2018, 07:15 PM
RE: Girth Comparaison of Animals - Pckts - 04-19-2018, 08:54 PM
RE: JUST QUEST - P.T.Sondaica - 03-30-2018, 04:30 PM
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RE: JUST QUEST - Pckts - 03-30-2018, 09:25 PM
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RE: JUST QUEST - Polar - 03-31-2018, 12:40 AM
RE: JUST QUEST - Pckts - 03-31-2018, 02:00 AM
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RE: JUST QUEST - Polar - 03-31-2018, 03:44 AM
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RE: Girth Comparaison of Animals - sanjay - 04-19-2018, 07:22 PM
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RE: JUST QUEST - Polar - 03-28-2018, 06:14 AM
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RE: JUST QUEST - Rishi - 03-28-2018, 04:28 PM
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