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12-09-2020, 02:33 AM( This post was last modified: 12-09-2020, 02:46 AM by Tr1x24 )
(12-09-2020, 01:18 AM)sundarbans Wrote: There is always a lot of mention of the Avoca/Giraffe males in these threads. And they seem to have been a successful coalition with many of their offspring going on to breed successfully. Can anyone give me more details about the coalition? How many were they? When and where did they reign? And why are they called "Avoca/Giraffe"? Are any of them alive?
7 males born in Giraffe pride, 2 in 2007/8,4 in 2009 and 1 in 2011..
2 oldest left the pride first and become pride males of Avoca pride, and where named Avoca males..
4 brothers joined them later and formed Avoca/Giraffe coalition of 6..
7th youngest brother didnt joined them, he left on his own and became dominant in Thornybush over Black Dam pride..
Avoca/Giraffes where dominant over Avoca pride in 2012/13 and sired 5 Avoca males..
Later on around 2015 they moved into Ngala and become dominant over Birmingham and Birmingham breakeaway/Red Road pride..
Then some of them started moving further east around Orpen area and north Manyeleti, they where dominant over Koppies and possibly Scorro pride there, and maybe more in Kruger..
In 2018 they abandon or lost Ngala territory to Ross males (apperantly 1 Avoca/Giraffe was killed by Ross males, but only a speculation )..
By that time some of them are further into Manyeleti with Nharu and Mbiri prides, others are around Orpen gates, but at that time 2 Orpen males shows up..
In late 2018/early 2019 only 3 where seen, 2 had bad limps, 1 with limp then disapeared..
Other 2 trailed Nharus and then 1 of them got killed in early 2019 by either Nharu pride or Orpen males who where seen mating with Nharu pride at that time..
Last one become nomadic and he died this year, at the beginning of 2020..
They overthroned N. Matimbas in Ngala/Orpen area, killing Slit Nose and apperantly they killed 1 or 2 Skybed males..
Youngest, "7th" Giraffe male is possiblity still alive, but hasnt been seen for half a year..
Great, big and powerful coalition, but unfortunately their demise came very quickly in late 2018/early 2019 they lost almost all their members..