Modern Weights and Measurements of Wild Lions

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(09-22-2020, 03:11 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 01:59 PM)Rishi Wrote:

(09-21-2020, 10:47 PM)Yusuf Wrote: You won't believe anything on lions but everything on tigers. On Carnivora.net we can saw how biased you are.

@Yusuf is on permanent blacklist for turning it into VS debate, making personal attack, derailing thread with offtopic discussion & claiming baseless statements as facts... Keep those discussions restricted in the fightclub forums.

Whole posts will be deleted if some of the content violates Wildfact policy.

@Pckts please don't respond to flamebait with more fuel.

Agreed, I had decided to wait later today before doing drastic moves, but this discussion wasn´t going to any good direction and no good new information.

I also checked a bit of that case of lions to Rwanda, because that leaflet "Lions and predators statistics" was obviously self-made. It was just made to look like some professional or journalist would have done it.

Anyway what comes to those weights, source can be Facebook site of African Parks.

There is this text:

"Five lionesses from &Beyond Phinda Private Game Reserve, two male lions from Tembe Elephant Park, both in KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa this morning began their journey to their new home in Akagera National Park, Rwanda. The lions were darted, tranquilised and collared by teams of vets, reserve managers and wildlife specialists with experience in translocation and relocations. They were placed in specially designed relocation containers and then loaded by crane on to a truck that will take them on their seven hour journey to Johannesburg where they will be carefully off loaded and reloaded (around midnight) on to a charter flight to Kigali, the capital of Rwanda. From Kigali they will be transported by road to Akagera National Park where they are expected to arrive tomorrow (Tuesday) morning.

The five “beauties” from Phinda include one 10 year old female and four lionesses between two and a half and four years old. They each weigh between 180 and 190 kg. The two male lions from Tembe are three and a half and four and half years old. They each weigh around 250 kg. They are known to have sirred at least 12 cubs and to have an affinity for their female counterparts so we hope they will continue their wily ways in Akagera with the “beauties” from Phinda."

Published 19th June 2015.

In that self made leaflet it was said, that two lions were "both weighing 550 pounds". All other places mentioning weights says "around 550 lbs". Not giving exact weights.

That project was a big one and with a lot of publicity. It´s probable, that lions were weighed, because they had to be sedated and examined and most probably more than once. But what were the weights really is another question. I couldn´t find any source giving exact weights really. It´s easy to round up figures in articles, it has been seen in many occasions. Otherwise there is a lot of information concerning this project, if someone is interested, it might be possible to get weights from some veterinarians involved, who knows. 

But I´ve seen bears to "shrink" over 400 kg and many tigers and lions 30-50 kg, when comparing newspaper articles and what some zoo/experts then tells, when asked, so at this point these weights can be said to be possible, but not something what could be used as reliable, imo. Not even close to that good information.

Actually those weights could be from airport and with containers, weighed before going in the airplane. If thinking, that containers 40-50 kg heavy, those lions weights would look suddenly quite average. While a 180 kg lioness can be possible in exceptional case, how likely it would be to have 5 that heavy lionesses at same place same time, looking just average and one very young looking to be clearly smaller (there is a documentary made of this operation and a lot of footage showing lions.

Then we would be talking a about 200-210 kg males and 130-140 kg lionesses. Or maybe 190 kg males and 120-130 kg lionesses. This is all guessing, but I think, that this kind of figures are way closer the truth if real weights can be found out one day. But having two exceptionally big male lions and five really exceptionally big lionesses at same place... what are the odds, everyone can think themselves. Reply