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Coalitions of Kruger National Park

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(11-30-2022, 05:21 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: I asked the guide if there's any females he said ".yes, but only south of the levuvhu river, but they plan to release some females here soon.

Are they gonna monitor that area in the future? if not,  they will have slim chances to survive.
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New clips of the Trichard male. Last one shows he did sustain an injury from his encounter with the three males that chased him but appears to still be in good condition.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cllw3phq2mg/...mMyMTA2M2Y=
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( This post was last modified: 12-01-2022, 10:26 AM by Wyld@Heart Edit Reason: Grammar )

(11-30-2022, 05:53 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: so you are saying that reason are humans who live near by? Not good prospect for future if reserve doesnt monitor that area more.

As well as the nature/human conflict, the Kruger north of the Olifants River changes dramatically in ecosystem. It's quite startling to be in open Maroela/Knobthorn Savanna South of the bridge and then pretty immediately encounter almost impenetrable Mopani veld as soon as you cross. Game densities north and far north are significantly less than south of Olifants resulting in fewer predators as well generally spread out over larger territories. The area around Letaba, for example, didn't have a resident pride in the area for years as well when I first started camping there. 

Pafuri concession is the area right at the northern tip of the Kruger and probably the best area in the Park for birding but has been lion sparse for a very long time. Lions victims to the human conflict does have an effect but the very nature of the ecosystem also plays it part.
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(12-01-2022, 10:25 AM)Wyld@Heart Wrote:
(11-30-2022, 05:53 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: so you are saying that reason are humans who live near by? Not good prospect for future if reserve doesnt monitor that area more.

As well as the nature/human conflict, the Kruger north of the Olifants River changes dramatically in ecosystem. It's quite startling to be in open Maroela/Knobthorn Savanna South of the bridge and then pretty immediately encounter almost impenetrable Mopani veld as soon as you cross. Game densities north and far north are significantly less than south of Olifants resulting in fewer predators as well generally spread out over larger territories. The area around Letaba, for example, didn't have a resident pride in the area for years as well when I first started camping there. 

Pafuri concession is the area right at the northern tip of the Kruger and probably the best area in the Park for birding but has been lion sparse for a very long time. Lions victims to the human conflict does have an effect but the very nature of the ecosystem also plays it part.

So, I take it from your experience and knowledge in the area, that even in the absence of HWC, lions living in this region will find it difficult to simply survive due to the lack of density in prey animals? Is that an accurate reading of your comment? If it is, any idea why they would intentionally move predators such as these into such an inhospitable place?
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Hippo boy has a collar now, they say they will monitor and add females but who knows
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I spent longer than I'd like to admit on this haha worth it though.

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@sik94 update from that sighting is they caught a trichardt male but he's got some injuries nothing major. Next day both Trichardt met up on a elephant carcass. Satara males left the area.
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(12-01-2022, 11:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote: So, I take it from your experience and knowledge in the area, that even in the absence of HWC, lions living in this region will find it difficult to simply survive due to the lack of density in prey animals? Is that an accurate reading of your comment? If it is, any idea why they would  intentionally move predators such as these into such an inhospitable place?

There are lions, and indeed cheetah, hyena, leopard and wild dog, in the north as well as mostly all the prey animal species that are in the south so survivability is not just possible, but just about a 'given' insofar as predator populations can be spoken about as such given the harshness of the bush. But there are enough prey species and water sources for a self sustaining and viable lion population however in a much lower density per square kilometer with correspondingly larger territories than the south. It's certainly not as inhospitable as the truly arid areas where other lions survive and thrive, it's just dense mopani with lower density of the prey animals that they prefer. 

The idea of translocating these males so far north is probably because of such low densities. Competition in the south is fierce, as we know, and putting them pretty much anywhere south of Olifants would almost certainly see them come into conflict with males and prides already protecting litters so human intervention in that regard would have a direct effect on the population that could be negative to the current inhabitants and/or the males themselves which is not ideal. 

These sorts of things are always done with an idea to impact as little as possible on the existing lions in the area and the far north doesn't really have one to speak of except perhaps nomadic lions passing through and the relocation of these two kills two birds with one stone; they have a chance to establish themselves without risking other lions or themselves too much while also hopefully seeding and establishing a lion presence in an area that hasn't had a sedentary one for years. It's not the S25 with herds around every corner, but they can survive and do well there. Buffalo, in particular, are in plentiful supply if maybe not as compliant.
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( This post was last modified: 12-01-2022, 01:45 PM by Brahimlegend )


More of that Satara v Trichardt
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These might be some of the Nkuhlus, based on location in Skukuza

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Throwback: Kumana males in 2015

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Biyamiti male 



Gomondwane male

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End of the road 



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Are these Mpondo sons or are they part of the Gomondwane young? The author named them Tatu Males
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I'm putting this here, as I honestly have no idea where it was filmed. Even after reading the comments, it is unclear where it was filmed, or who the two lions are. But, this lioness, who is likely defending cubs given her suckle marks, is flat out putting it on a male lion, giving him the business.




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