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The Great Apes
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About #286 @The Panther . No need to apologize, I just asked to get clear about what we are talking about.
Gorillas are very interesting and for sure there can be (and I would be surprised if not) some really big ones. This is one interesting case too: https://books.google.fi/books?id=8xswCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA549&lpg=PA549&dq=gorilla+ambam+cameroon&source=bl&ots=0b6FjRkOWa&sig=ACfU3U3B8ygfNhyX0HqIypHxihGW9PhSDg&hl=fi&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi4wsHv0pPkAhXIJpoKHclWBZI4ChDoATADegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=gorilla%20ambam%20cameroon&f=false In that is mentioned a gorilla, which was possibly "Great Gorilla of Ambam" mentioned by Merfield and Miller (1956) and shot on 22nd May 1926. It had been dead for 2 days before Merfield found the body already in an advanced state of decomposition. Weight 214 kg.
Two interesting studies about gorilla sizes. Second one isn´t public, but introduction was available.
In this some good photos too: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281781329_The_weight_of_Wild_Gorillas_Sample_size_poorly_worded_field_notes_and_the_quality_of_the_published_mean_for_wild_female_Gorilla_gorilla_gorilla Then this one, quote: "Body proportions and tissue composition (e.g., relative contributions of muscle, skin, bone, and adipose to total body mass) were determined through dissection of four adult captive lowland gorillas. The relative contribution of bone varies little among the four animals (10.2-13.4%) despite considerable range in body weights (99.5-211 kg). In tissue composition, three animals have on average 37.3% muscle relative to body mass. Maximum estimates of body fat range between 19.4-44%." "The old, obese female had one half the muscle tissue of the other three animals (16% vs. 37.3%), and twice the body fat (44%)" https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12365638_Body_mass_in_Lowland_Gorillas_a_quantitative_analysis  (08-21-2019, 05:02 PM)Shadow Wrote: About #286 @The Panther . No need to apologize, I just asked to get clear about what we are talking about. I think I've heard of that large Western gorilla before, it was shot in that very same region in Cameroon. I've always wanted to see a picture of that very male from Ambam, but I never thought his weight was actually verified afterwards. Thanks for that. 
Bonobo taking a bath... Of course it is relaxing into the water, but adult male chimpanzees become bald, bonobos not... Thus I seriously believe it's a bonobo even if it isn't precised.
"I dare you to get close to my kid."
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Beautiful image that was taken on the cold misty peak of Mount Bisoke.
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 (08-21-2019, 05:10 PM)Shadow Wrote: Two interesting studies about gorilla sizes. Second one isn´t public, but introduction was available. Here is the study: https://apeanatomyevolution.com/wp-conte...rillas.pdf Greetings.
This chimp suffered from an alopecia and lost all his hairs. It's a captive chimp, Twycross Zoo in England... But look at the musculature !
Big old Guhonda and a couple of his group members.
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