Notch Coalition Male Lineage

[Ngala]

Photo and information credits: Mohammed H. Alnaser
"The lookout king, Notch II, big respect for this legendary male who is the last lion standing of the Notch's legacy after his father along with him and his brother took over most of my Masai Mara for years, now his days are counting and this sighting might be the last for me, I pray I hope I go back there while he is still around."

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[Pckts]

Charles Mwangi Wandero

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[stoja9]

(09-19-2017, 01:59 AM)Pckts Wrote: Charles Mwangi Wandero

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  Look at them boys.... Reply

[NCAT33]

Who are they? Reply

[Ngala]

(09-19-2017, 07:01 PM)NCAT33 Wrote: Who are they?

From left to right Caesar, Ron and Grimace. Reply

[stronghold]

Masai Mara Lions are massive compare to SS and rest of Kruger. I wander why. Reply

[Pckts]

(09-19-2017, 11:34 PM)stronghold Wrote: Masai Mara Lions are massive compare to SS and rest of Kruger. I wander why.

I doubt there is any real size difference between Eastern and Southern Lion populations. Reply

[Michael]

(09-19-2017, 11:34 PM)stronghold Wrote: Masai Mara Lions are massive compare to SS and rest of Kruger. I wander why.

They are not bigger they are just bulkier because of the migration Reply

[Pckts]

(09-20-2017, 12:45 AM)Michael Wrote:

(09-19-2017, 11:34 PM)stronghold Wrote: Masai Mara Lions are massive compare to SS and rest of Kruger. I wander why.

They are not bigger they are just bulkier because of the migration

That is a good point, I'm sure the prey biomass is higher in MM/Serengeti compared with Kruger/SS but also the lion population is far higher in Tanzania/Kenya compared to S. Africa. Reply

[Tshokwane]

Credits to Michael Hilder.

Notch 2.

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[Michael]

(09-20-2017, 12:54 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(09-20-2017, 12:45 AM)Michael Wrote:

(09-19-2017, 11:34 PM)stronghold Wrote: Masai Mara Lions are massive compare to SS and rest of Kruger. I wander why.

They are not bigger they are just bulkier because of the migration

That is a good point, I'm sure the prey biomass is higher in MM/Serengeti compared with Kruger/SS but also the lion population is far higher in Tanzania/Kenya compared to S. Africa.

In my opinion the biggest difference in terms of bulk is not between males but rather females.
Some lioness specimens from the Mara remind me of a Pit bull, they are really muscled compared to the lionesses of the Sabi Sands which tend to be slightly slender, that said there are substancial morphological differences between each pride/coalition in the Sabi Sands and from what I've seen the lions in the Mara are somewhat all farely similar. Reply

[Pckts]

(09-22-2017, 01:15 AM)Michael Wrote:

(09-20-2017, 12:54 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(09-20-2017, 12:45 AM)Michael Wrote:

(09-19-2017, 11:34 PM)stronghold Wrote: Masai Mara Lions are massive compare to SS and rest of Kruger. I wander why.

They are not bigger they are just bulkier because of the migration

That is a good point, I'm sure the prey biomass is higher in MM/Serengeti compared with Kruger/SS but also the lion population is far higher in Tanzania/Kenya compared to S. Africa.

In my opinion the biggest difference in terms of bulk is not between males but rather females.
Some lioness specimens from the Mara remind me of a Pit bull, they are really muscled compared to the lionesses of the Sabi Sands which tend to be slightly slender, that said there are substancial morphological differences between each pride/coalition in the Sabi Sands and from what I've seen the lions in the Mara are somewhat all farely similar.

When I was in the Serengeti/Ngorongoro Crater I saw significant differences in lion size just between pride members, it's very hard to gauge an average since like all wild animals, lions come in many shapes and sizes even with in the same pride. The herbivores are much easier to recognize size differences between locations since it's much more exaggerated. Reply

[Ngala]

Photo and information credits: Neil Nourse Photography
"Notch II Pan Blur.... Early morning light. He was in the process of chasing off a younger male intruder. Maasai Mara, Aug 2017"

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[Ngala]

Photo and information credits: Matthew Scerri - Wildlife Photography
"Caeser was part of a coalition of Lions known as the Notch boys. They dominated their territory and were made popular by various documentaries being made featuring them.
He died earlier this month of natural causes, something fairly uncommon in the world of Lions, who are usually killed when their pride is taken over."

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[Chris]

How many male cubs are their in notch 2 pride right now? And do you think he would do the same as his father and join his sons? @Tshokwane Reply