There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
--- Peter Broekhuijsen ---

  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Closed 
Jaguar dominates tiger

Pantherinae Offline
Bigcat Enthusiast
*****
#1

Jaguar dominating a tiger in captivity absolutely amazed.. Jaguars really are something.  




3 users Like Pantherinae's post

United States Polar Offline
Polar Bear Enthusiast
****
#2

He isn't actually dominating the tiger, the tiger simply wants to avoid a possible chance of physical confrontation, which is different from "dominance".
3 users Like Polar's post

United States Pckts Offline
Bigcat Enthusiast
******
#3

I'm having a hard time seeing the "domination"
3 users Like Pckts's post

Pantherinae Offline
Bigcat Enthusiast
*****
#4

Well it's being chased off by the jaguar.. Jaguar seems to be the dominant cat in the cage. There are many types of domination, both cats wanted food and just like a male lion with lionesses the jaguar kept the tiger at bay and chased it away. That's dominant in my book!
2 users Like Pantherinae's post

United States Polar Offline
Polar Bear Enthusiast
****
#5

(12-01-2016, 08:21 AM)Pantherinae Wrote: Well it's being chased off by the jaguar.. Jaguar seems to be the dominant cat in the cage. There are many types of domination, both cats wanted food and just like a male lion with lionesses the jaguar kept the tiger at bay and chased it away. That's dominant in my book!

Well, whatever. It's your word.

But "domination", in my sense, usually involves a prolonged physical/hierarchal exchange or intimidation (speaking wild animals here, of course) in which one of the participants has a clear advantage over the other. In this case, the tiger was larger and wasn't willing to participate in the jaguar's games, thus no definition of who is dominant can be applied. Hierarchy doesn't apply since they are also two different species.
2 users Like Polar's post

India Vinay Offline
Banned
#6

Dominating!! Where and When

See the real 'dominance', 500 kg bull run away after savage fight with 10kg Goat.May be this is the way Jaguar dominates Tiger.




5 users Like Vinay's post

Pantherinae Offline
Bigcat Enthusiast
*****
#7

The tiger was intimidated by the jaguar no doubt, tiger would of course win if a physical had broken out, but dominance in the wild is also between different spicies like lions are dominant over hyenas, but hyenas can be dominating lions too. I have seen a single hyena stealing a carcass from a lioness, in that case the hyena where the dominant spicies. 

I say it like this the tiger would have been waiting by the bars pick up the first slice of meat if it was alone, but since there was a tougher cat in the cage that wouldn't let it do that, the tiger waited on it's turn. and that is Dominance
3 users Like Pantherinae's post

Pantherinae Offline
Bigcat Enthusiast
*****
#8

@Vinay  both cats wanted food jaguar ate first..bull and the goat was testing,(btw I have seen a ram snap the neck of a young bull) Let me assume tiger is a big favorite of you're I have never said a tiger would loose to a jaguar, but in this case the jaguar dominated the tiger...
3 users Like Pantherinae's post

India Vinay Offline
Banned
#9

^ That is your interpretation. Jaguar 


*This image is copyright of its original author



I saw this image some where!! ........ with leopard 


*This image is copyright of its original author
3 users Like Vinay's post

India brotherbear Offline
Grizzly Enthusiast
#10

To begin with, putting the two big cats in the same cage was an act of stupidity. The jaguar was the first to grab the meat and run to the other side of the cage with it. Both animals ate. I noticed too that the jaguar was very anxious to get out of that cage. The tiger seemed nervous; probably because he was in a cage with a strange animal. We must remember that these are big cats who have lived their entire lives in captivity. 
In the wild, if jaguars roamed the same jungle as the Bengal tiger, I can make a pretty good guess at which cat would dominate the other.
5 users Like brotherbear's post

Israel Spalea Offline
Wildanimal Lover
******
#11

@brotherbear:

About #10: One couldn't say it better...

Similarly, some videos on youtube are so stupidly entitled...
3 users Like Spalea's post

Roflcopters Offline
Modern Tiger Expert
*****
#12
( This post was last modified: 12-01-2016, 06:50 PM by Roflcopters )

-0:00 - 0:05, shout out to the lioness enjoying her meal. 
-0:08 - a very nervous jaguar mock charges the tiger, as expected. tiger effortlessly throws the much smaller jaguar off and the jaguar goes running to his corner. 0:12 jaguar can be seen running away while the tiger just walks like nothing happened.
-0:18 - jaguar mock charges again.
-0:31 - tiger in the background seems to be taunting the jaguar from his "tiger pool". 
-0:44 - Jaguar mock charges.
-0:46 - Jaguar runs to his corner after a failed attempt.
-0:48 - tiger casually walks out of the pool like a boss.
-0:51-0:56 - a very calm tiger is seen provoking the smaller cat, its like he's waiting for the Jaguar to take the bait. 
-1:05 - jaguar mock charges, tiger is just chilling. no fear, no reaction. 
-1:06 - jaguar runs to his corner.
-1:23 - jaguar attacks, tiger throws him off with a right jab. 1:24 jaguar submits and runs. 
-1:25 - jaguar attacks again, tiger just toys with him. 
-1:29 - jaguar runs to his corner after having 0 effect in that little show down. 
-1:31 - tiger just doing his routinely walk.
-1:35, 2:39 - several failed mock charges by the jaguar, tiger puts him to his place everytime. 
-the entire video from 0:00 until 2:40, i saw no "fight" for food.
-3:05, 3:24 - a heavily stressed jaguar is on his guard while the tiger pays absolutely no attention to him, Its like the Jaguar doesnt exist to him. 
- 3:28, 4:15 - super calm tiger enjoying his meal, 0 stamina burn out. jaguar with all of his mock charges burnt himself out and is gasping for air. 
- In social occasions, the tiger is an excellent host and there is no such thing as a casual party in its home, Guests can always expect a memorable occasion with an extravagance of food and drink. to me it seems like the jaguar got spooked the entire video by the bigger and stronger cat. Tigre de Bengala is a Trollololololol.
- I could be wrong.
6 users Like Roflcopters's post

United States Pckts Offline
Bigcat Enthusiast
******
#13
( This post was last modified: 12-01-2016, 06:24 PM by Pckts )

Just watched it again, they're obviously cage mates, when they do actually go at it you can tell the tiger isn't trying to hurt the jag but of course the jag is being more food aggressive for sure. At black jaguar  white tiger he always talks about jags food aggression and fighting prowess. He just had to remove dharma the male leopard from the big pride because Michael the jag become too aggressive for him. Those are probably my two favorite big cats so it's cool to see regardless.
4 users Like Pckts's post

Roflcopters Offline
Modern Tiger Expert
*****
#14

all jokes aside, the video was actually pretty fun to watch. tfs!
3 users Like Roflcopters's post

Argentina Tshokwane Away
Big Cats Enthusiast
******
#15

My take on it.

If you consider this as "domination", then you're looking at it from a lion's point of view, not from a solitary cat's one.

The only domination, if you can call it that, that I see is the one you expect from an adult male towards a youngster, and to me that's what is happening here. The Jaguar is adult, while the tiger is a subadult that is more trying to play and see what he can get away with, that anything else.

And one more thing. What the video shows is not how solitary cats solve their domination problems. They don't mock charge 100 times just for the sake of it. Either they solve it once and for all, or they simply refrain from doing it.
8 users Like Tshokwane's post






Users browsing this thread:
1 Guest(s)

About Us
Go Social     Subscribe  

Welcome to WILDFACT forum, a website that focuses on sharing the joy that wildlife has on offer. We welcome all wildlife lovers to join us in sharing that joy. As a member you can share your research, knowledge and experience on animals with the community.
wildfact.com is intended to serve as an online resource for wildlife lovers of all skill levels from beginners to professionals and from all fields that belong to wildlife anyhow. Our focus area is wild animals from all over world. Content generated here will help showcase the work of wildlife experts and lovers to the world. We believe by the help of your informative article and content we will succeed to educate the world, how these beautiful animals are important to survival of all man kind.
Many thanks for visiting wildfact.com. We hope you will keep visiting wildfact regularly and will refer other members who have passion for wildlife.

Forum software by © MyBB