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RE: Big Cat Strength - Shadow - 01-05-2019
(01-05-2019, 11:36 PM)Pckts Wrote: That's a good sized cow and Male Gaur regularly cross the 900kg threshold so a decent sized cow should be at least half that size, it's also freshly killed as well, meaning no stomach contents removed and he dragged it a good distance immediately after making the kill through very tricky terrain. It's an impressive feat for a young Male, you can see many new images and videos of him from this year and he's become a good sized Tiger.
IMO, a very large Male Lion or Tiger should be able to drag 1000kg for a short distance if the terrain isn't too harsh.
Something like that I think too when combining what can be seen in different videos and when looking some books and what people there tell. There are many times mentioned animals weighing between 500-1000 kg. And if someone feels, that it is not so much, just find somewhere a good big sack, put there one ton of sand and try to pull......
That kind of reality check is healthy time to time. Something different than pushing or pulling a car.
RE: Big Cat Strength - Panther - 01-06-2019
(01-05-2019, 11:48 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Panther, that's three-quarters of a ton!
I know! I just replied to your word of...
(01-05-2019, 11:48 PM)brotherbear Wrote: But, they do have their limitations, such as dragging a heavy carcass up a steep hill or for long distance.
Which is mentioned in that video!
RE: Big Cat Strength - brotherbear - 01-06-2019
Based on the available data like that juvenile tiger dragging the heavy female gaur through rocks, tiger breaking buffalo necks, and based on data posted by @parvez about "tiger breaking rhino neck" it's still very impressive.
Panther; can you show us this account of a tiger breaking the neck of a rhinoceros? A grizzly went face-to-face with a rhino once.
Never mind Panther. I found it. Tigers hunting and killing large pachyderms - post #25.
RE: Big Cat Strength - Shadow - 01-06-2019
(12-15-2016, 06:56 AM)Polar Wrote: Tiger attacking cow and trying to pull the cow directly off its feet with his excessive forearm pulling strength:
This is one video showing in the end tiger pulling/dragging a cow to cover of the woods and bushes. I was starting to think, that is it really impossible to find something, where tiger is clearly making it happen. Not miles here, but still that cow isn´t small and clearly tiger dragged it into the woods out of open terrain. And here it looked like to happen in a way indicating, that possible to drag something heavier too. That kind of cow can weight anything between 450-550 kg as far as I know. Difficult to say anything about distance, but that dragging from 1:22 forward looked to happen quite smoothly considering the size of that cow.
RE: Big Cat Strength - Panther - 01-06-2019
(01-06-2019, 04:04 AM)Shadow Wrote: This is one video showing in the end tiger pulling/dragging a cow to cover of the woods and bushes. I was starting to think, that is it really impossible to find something, where tiger is clearly making it happen. Not miles here, but still that cow isn´t small and clearly tiger dragged it into the woods out of open terrain. And here it looked like to happen in a way indicating, that possible to drag something heavier too. That kind of cow can weight anything between 450-550 kg as far as I know. Difficult to say anything about distance, but that dragging from 1:22 forward looked to happen quite smoothly considering the size of that cow.
That's not a cow, that's a bull. It had balls!
RE: Big Cat Strength - Shadow - 01-06-2019
(01-06-2019, 06:24 AM)Panther Wrote:(01-06-2019, 04:04 AM)Shadow Wrote: This is one video showing in the end tiger pulling/dragging a cow to cover of the woods and bushes. I was starting to think, that is it really impossible to find something, where tiger is clearly making it happen. Not miles here, but still that cow isn´t small and clearly tiger dragged it into the woods out of open terrain. And here it looked like to happen in a way indicating, that possible to drag something heavier too. That kind of cow can weight anything between 450-550 kg as far as I know. Difficult to say anything about distance, but that dragging from 1:22 forward looked to happen quite smoothly considering the size of that cow.
That's not a cow, that's a bull. It had balls!
Oh, that music and way they danced baffled me :) No wonder, that the bull seemed to be so annoyed, maybe that tiger was half-blind and thought, that he found a Lady :)
RE: Big Cat Strength - Pantherinae - 01-06-2019
Male lion dragging a buffalo cow up what seems like a slope hill. Impressive display of strength
RE: Big Cat Strength - Panther - 01-06-2019
(01-06-2019, 05:08 PM)Shadow Wrote: Oh, that music and way they danced baffled me :) No wonder, that the bull seemed to be so annoyed, maybe that tiger was half-blind and thought, that he found a Lady :)I hope you're joking, right?
RE: Big Cat Strength - Spalea - 01-06-2019
@Pantherinae :
About #115: another video I like a lot with asiatic lions:
RE: Big Cat Strength - Pckts - 01-06-2019
Male in Bandhavgarh dragging a cow across the road
Kankatti Female dragging a large cattle with relative ease in Bandhavgarh
Starts just past the 9:10 mark
RE: Big Cat Strength - Pantherinae - 01-06-2019
Another video of a lion dragging a big eland carcass
And here a male lion moves a buffalo bull. Much heavier than himself
RE: Big Cat Strength - Pckts - 01-06-2019
I figure that Bull was around 500-800kg when healthy and around 200-500kg with all its innards removed, the lion strains but still pulls it with strength to spare, the 1000kg drag strength limit seems reasonable for big males to me.
RE: Big Cat Strength - Shadow - 01-06-2019
(01-06-2019, 09:44 PM)Pantherinae Wrote: Another video of a lion dragging a big eland carcass
And here a male lion moves a buffalo bull. Much heavier than himself
Many good videos lately with quite heavy animals, I think. Showing a lot of strength, but same time all proving, that when seeing in some document or book word "carry", it is some small animal or then writer have quite odd idea, what that word means.
For me this is still something what can be called carrying:
All other videos in this thread so far have been about dragging, IMO. So when seeing somewhere text claiming some predator carrying a cow or a horse.... what else can anyone do, but smile when thinking about sizes of a horse and a cow or a buffalo and trying to imagine a lion or tiger carrying something like that in mouth like a shopping bag :)
RE: Big Cat Strength - Shadow - 01-07-2019
Leopard makes it look like easy, no doubt about that.
In next one climbing to tree at 1:05 This one has to be watched in youtube, leopard dragging or in this case can be said carrying whole zebra carcass up to tree. Not adult zebra, but not small one either compared to leopard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDv-PjhQ2Q&t=65s
One more even though not as big as that zebra before.
RE: Big Cat Strength - Spalea - 01-07-2019
1) small and light prey: the felid is carrying it...
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2) Medium and heavy prey: the felid is dragging it forward.
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3) quite heavy prey: the felid is dragging it backward.
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