(06-02-2023, 05:23 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Although they have huge size the Nkhulus are clearly in the basket of lions who take longer to mature mentally build their confidence despite having great numbers, but that doesn't mean they'll be weak once they "click" and switch to fully territorial.

(06-02-2023, 05:44 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: As we said, we need to wait with "new Mapogos" predictions for young nomads who didnt won 1 fight against big boys in their lives.

Nkhulus might become great warriors one day, but its too early to predict such things, but this doesnt have to mean anything, Majingilanes also lost brother in first major conflict.

Numbers barely matters for young males if their confidence, experience and teamplay is not on the lvl of their enemies.

This is not a clash between 2 territorial coalitions, where numbers matter much more.

It was rubbish to believe that such experienced and coordinated brothers like S.Avocas would go down just like that against inexperienced young males.

S.Avocas - Nkhulus 1:0, but this is far from over i think.

(06-02-2023, 11:31 PM)Mapokser Wrote: It's definitely not rubbish to think Avocas are in trouble and might go down if they face Nkhulu.
Saying this would be akin to saying it was rubbish to say Majingilane were a threat after their brother died, then in the same day they retaliated and the rest is history.

(06-02-2023, 11:31 PM)Mapokser Wrote: What happened here wasn't the "normal" but rather an incredible feat displayed by one of the strongest duos.

(06-02-2023, 11:31 PM)Mapokser Wrote: They were 5 males and the one caught wasn't even young, but rather an experienced prime male who happens to be the smallest of the entire coalition of 7.

(06-02-2023, 11:43 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote: I wonder if the Nkulus will stay together? There’s been a few big coalitions that lose the leader and the rest end up splitting, happened to Birmingham and Matimbas I think. 
I wonder why none of the boys came back to help dreadlocks? They must not realize their confidence, size and numbers.
 Do they hunt well?

(06-03-2023, 01:42 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I'm mentioning size because you seemed to somehow be implying Nkhulus lack strength for being young, when in reality they are physically stronger than their prime partner

(06-03-2023, 01:42 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I'm mentioning size because you seemed to somehow be implying Nkhulus lack strength for being young, when in reality they are physically stronger than their prime partner.

(06-03-2023, 02:23 AM)sik94 Wrote:

(06-03-2023, 01:42 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I'm mentioning size because you seemed to somehow be implying Nkhulus lack strength for being young, when in reality they are physically stronger than their prime partner.

Nkhulus are yet to make a sustained challenge for a territory, they still behave pretty nomadic. Territorial challenges are all about confidence and a couple of the Nkhulus being pretty young and injured, all it would take is one of the weaker individuals backing out to make everyone just drop everything and run. Also, when everyone is running and it's chaos, nobody knows what's even happening. By the time they regrouped, the Avocas probably had finished the job on Dreads. 

I honestly never quite understood the S. Avocas. They were nothing special when they first showed up, the three Tsalalas were able to push them around and I thought Tsalala males were very ordinary lions. The S. Avocas seem to be the kind of lions that peak a bit later in life(7-10), in physicality and as territorial males. Opposed to the N. Avocas who peaked early(5-7) and never grew to be the same physically or as territorial males. It's odd how there's such a difference between the two sets of brothers.

(06-03-2023, 06:02 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @sik94 Wait are you serious? S.Avocas showed up as 4yo, chased the healthy Matshapiri male and attacked the other one ( I don't remember now if they were the ones to give the limp to the other Matshapiri ), IIRC they doomed the then dominant Matshapiris ( coalition that defeated and ousted S.Matimbas ), they also fought Ginger over a carcass and despite Tsalalas being 3 they accepted the challenge and defeated them.

They were incredible when they showed up, showing behaviour the vast majority of Kruger lions their age don't show.