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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Mwk85 - 12-01-2022

New clips of the Trichard male. Last one shows he did sustain an injury from his encounter with the three males that chased him but appears to still be in good condition.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cllw3phq2mg/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Wyld@Heart - 12-01-2022

(11-30-2022, 05:23 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: so you are saying that reason are humans who live near by? Not good prospect for future if reserve doesnt monitor that area more.

As well as the nature/human conflict, the Kruger north of the Olifants River changes dramatically in ecosystem. It's quite startling to be in open Maroela/Knobthorn Savanna South of the bridge and then pretty immediately encounter almost impenetrable Mopani veld as soon as you cross. Game densities north and far north are significantly less than south of Olifants resulting in fewer predators as well generally spread out over larger territories. The area around Letaba, for example, didn't have a resident pride in the area for years as well when I first started camping there. 

Pafuri concession is the area right at the northern tip of the Kruger and probably the best area in the Park for birding but has been lion sparse for a very long time. Lions victims to the human conflict does have an effect but the very nature of the ecosystem also plays it part.

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - BA0701 - 12-01-2022

(12-01-2022, 09:55 AM)Wyld@Heart Wrote:
(11-30-2022, 05:23 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: so you are saying that reason are humans who live near by? Not good prospect for future if reserve doesnt monitor that area more.

As well as the nature/human conflict, the Kruger north of the Olifants River changes dramatically in ecosystem. It's quite startling to be in open Maroela/Knobthorn Savanna South of the bridge and then pretty immediately encounter almost impenetrable Mopani veld as soon as you cross. Game densities north and far north are significantly less than south of Olifants resulting in fewer predators as well generally spread out over larger territories. The area around Letaba, for example, didn't have a resident pride in the area for years as well when I first started camping there. 

Pafuri concession is the area right at the northern tip of the Kruger and probably the best area in the Park for birding but has been lion sparse for a very long time. Lions victims to the human conflict does have an effect but the very nature of the ecosystem also plays it part.

So, I take it from your experience and knowledge in the area, that even in the absence of HWC, lions living in this region will find it difficult to simply survive due to the lack of density in prey animals? Is that an accurate reading of your comment? If it is, any idea why they would intentionally move predators such as these into such an inhospitable place?

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Brahim - 12-01-2022

Hippo boy has a collar now, they say they will monitor and add females but who knows

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - sik94 - 12-01-2022

I spent longer than I'd like to admit on this haha worth it though.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5y6-u7IfQsk

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Brahim - 12-01-2022

@sik94 update from that sighting is they caught a trichardt male but he's got some injuries nothing major. Next day both Trichardt met up on a elephant carcass. Satara males left the area.

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Wyld@Heart - 12-01-2022

(12-01-2022, 10:42 AM)BA0701 Wrote: So, I take it from your experience and knowledge in the area, that even in the absence of HWC, lions living in this region will find it difficult to simply survive due to the lack of density in prey animals? Is that an accurate reading of your comment? If it is, any idea why they would  intentionally move predators such as these into such an inhospitable place?

There are lions, and indeed cheetah, hyena, leopard and wild dog, in the north as well as mostly all the prey animal species that are in the south so survivability is not just possible, but just about a 'given' insofar as predator populations can be spoken about as such given the harshness of the bush. But there are enough prey species and water sources for a self sustaining and viable lion population however in a much lower density per square kilometer with correspondingly larger territories than the south. It's certainly not as inhospitable as the truly arid areas where other lions survive and thrive, it's just dense mopani with lower density of the prey animals that they prefer. 

The idea of translocating these males so far north is probably because of such low densities. Competition in the south is fierce, as we know, and putting them pretty much anywhere south of Olifants would almost certainly see them come into conflict with males and prides already protecting litters so human intervention in that regard would have a direct effect on the population that could be negative to the current inhabitants and/or the males themselves which is not ideal. 

These sorts of things are always done with an idea to impact as little as possible on the existing lions in the area and the far north doesn't really have one to speak of except perhaps nomadic lions passing through and the relocation of these two kills two birds with one stone; they have a chance to establish themselves without risking other lions or themselves too much while also hopefully seeding and establishing a lion presence in an area that hasn't had a sedentary one for years. It's not the S25 with herds around every corner, but they can survive and do well there. Buffalo, in particular, are in plentiful supply if maybe not as compliant.

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Brahim - 12-01-2022


More of that Satara v Trichardt

RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Mdz123 - 12-02-2022

These might be some of the Nkuhlus, based on location in Skukuza



RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Mdz123 - 12-02-2022

Throwback: Kumana males in 2015



RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Mdz123 - 12-04-2022

Biyamiti male 



Gomondwane male



RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Tonpa - 12-04-2022

End of the road 





RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Gavskrr - 12-04-2022

Are these Mpondo sons or are they part of the Gomondwane young? The author named them Tatu Males
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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - BA0701 - 12-05-2022

I'm putting this here, as I honestly have no idea where it was filmed. Even after reading the comments, it is unclear where it was filmed, or who the two lions are. But, this lioness, who is likely defending cubs given her suckle marks, is flat out putting it on a male lion, giving him the business.






RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - BigLion39 - 12-05-2022

(12-04-2022, 02:10 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Biyamiti male

This boys eye has to bother him. You can see how swollen it is. Poor guy. Some lions you can see loose sight and the eye isn't swollen and some, like this Biyamiti male, his eye is almost double in size.