Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Printable Version +- WildFact (https://wildfact.com/forum) +-- Forum: Information Section (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-information-section) +--- Forum: Terrestrial Wild Animals (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-terrestrial-wild-animals) +---- Forum: Wild Cats (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-wild-cats) +----- Forum: Lion (https://wildfact.com/forum/forum-lion) +----- Thread: Coalitions of Kruger National Park (/topic-coalitions-of-kruger-national-park) Pages:
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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - lionjaguar - 11-03-2019 #580 (by @Spalea) I don't know if this is correct to discuss lion and crocodile. The interaction between lions and crocodiles are interesting. Lions are not really great hunters compared to other cats. Jaguars probably bring down crocodiles around these size very easy if they were big as lions Location is unclear From Shishangeni, it's very close to Kruger. From Kruger National Park Subadult male lion attacked by crocodiles, but he escaped. How big was this crocodile? I see people are praising on crocodiles, but all I see is crocodile normally attacks when animals are swimming or drinking water. That's very unfair fight. I am curious how far crocodiles can do the best if it was in the dry land. Pondoro Game Lodge. It's also close from Kruger It's from South Luangua Zambia This is not related with lion or crocodile. I found this as funny. RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-03-2019 @ You told " I don't know if this is correct to discuss lion and crocodile. ". The subject of this topic is the coalitions of Kruger National Park. Thus I showed this video (#585) because we see here a great coalition, 19 lions it seems. The interaction with the croc is a minor event, the croc being too small to represent a real threat... Otherwise it's clear that the jaguar is the only one feline to frequently hunt and eat some crocs (caimans mostly). Although the lions are able to adapt their behaviour according to their environment and available preys. I don't know more in which place some lions, realising that killing some crocs is much more easy than running after successfully antelops, have spezialised in hunting and killing crocs*. The more powerful the felid is, the lower is its hunting success rate. The lions being powerful can easily started again an other hunt after having failed. And once the prey is killed, no one predator will come against them to disput it (especially in pride of course). *After searching it, this happens in Zimbabwe: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lion-predation?pid=90973&highlight=lions+hunting+crocs#pid90973 at #705. RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - lionjaguar - 11-03-2019 (11-03-2019, 01:41 AM)Spalea Wrote: The more powerful the felid is, the lower is its hunting success rate. The lions being powerful can easily started again an other hunt after having failed. And once the prey is killed, no one predator will come against them to disput it (especially in pride of course). That's not always true if you see the fastest living felid. The lion is also the second largest, second strongest, second best fighter, and second most powerful cat. Hunting success is also vary by individuals. I think lions seem really different from other cats. Males have manes. They have nothing in their body besides brown color skin unlike other cats. Their techniques aren't really design for hunting. I heard they are design for fight, but I don't believe it as well. They probably evolved different in somewhat from adapting in open plains along with large herbivores. They are also social, although I heard Barbary lion and Cape lion didn't lived as group. I am not sure if this was true since they were long gone before someone study about them. I also heard Asiatic lion is not really social animal. RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-03-2019 (11-03-2019, 01:58 AM)lionjaguar Wrote:(11-03-2019, 01:41 AM)Spalea Wrote: The more powerful the felid is, the lower is its hunting success rate. The lions being powerful can easily started again an other hunt after having failed. And once the prey is killed, no one predator will come against them to disput it (especially in pride of course). The fastest living felid is the cheetah and the cheetah has a bigger level success hunting rate than lion (or tiger) and by far... But once the prey is killed it must eat it quickly, because unable to keep it against a lion, leopard, spotted hyena and so on. And running after and killing a prey represents clearly a very big cardiac effort for the cheetah Yes lions are different from other cats. But careful, we cannot be sure about Cape lions and Barbary lions because they were constantly hunted when Africa was settled. These lion subspecies didn't never know a peaceful environment (Park or reserve) before they disappeared. And the intensiv hunt which they suffered could very well completely modify their behaviour. What did the Barbary lions hunt ? Wild goats ? No need to live in big prides for this kind of prey, but perhaps their other wild preys were exterminated too... Same objection as concerns the Cape lions. If the Cape and Barbary lions could have lived in a preserved biotop, perhaps they would have lived in big prides like the extant lions of East or South Africa. We simply don't know. IMO, the male lions are also perfectly adapted for hunting like the lionesses (neither more, nor less) if they have to hunt. Wildfact forum gave many account of males hunting alone or together some big preys. They are very opportunist. Asiatic lions ? They are too numerous for the Gir Park, thus their behaviour isn't natural too. RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-04-2019 Two powerful males... RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-06-2019 A king ! RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-07-2019 howard.cleland Pulling your meal a long way into the shade. One of the prides big male lions flips the buffalo over to eat the other side of the kill. Kruger National Park. RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Mohawk4 - 11-12-2019 Territory takeover - The five Mpondo male lions have fully taken over the Jock concession RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-12-2019 He is great, he isn't happy, he is beautiful... RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Lycaon - 11-14-2019 Image and credit: Temujin Johnson KNP November 4, 2019 Good to see casper the white lion doing well. *This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-14-2019 Teenagers... Among them the future leaders. RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-14-2019 The best years... RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Spalea - 11-15-2019 howard.cleland Thirsty King at the S100 waterhole. He spent a long time quenching his thirst before slinking off into the evening shadows. RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Tr1x24 - 11-16-2019 Three Tooth Tsalala male coalition with Hilda Rock male, Talamati male and unknown male named Dreadlocks around deLaporte Dam near Skukuza. *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Potato - 11-17-2019 Mantimahle on patrol |