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RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 10-24-2017
(10-24-2017, 11:16 AM)Michael Wrote: Looks like either temporarily or permanently they have moved south
They've had territory in MalaMala since the beginning of their reign in 2015.
They have dominated the northern part of it after chasing away the Matimba males, and one or two of them have always kept an eye on it.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Michael - 10-24-2017
(10-24-2017, 05:35 PM)Tshokwane Wrote:Sure but it was only the northern parts of MalaMala, they haven't been this far south.(10-24-2017, 11:16 AM)Michael Wrote: Looks like either temporarily or permanently they have moved south
They've had territory in MalaMala since the beginning of their reign in 2015.
They have dominated the northern part of it after chasing away the Matimba males, and one or two of them have always kept an eye on it.
I say this because despite them being in MalaMala before by themselves the prides were still in their own territories, now both the Nkuhumas and the Styx have moved south and haven't been seen around Djuma in ages this forces the BB's to push even further south.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Michael - 10-24-2017
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Birmingham Mfumo with the Nkuhuma Pride
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 10-24-2017
(10-24-2017, 09:27 PM)Michael Wrote: I say this because despite them being in MalaMala before by themselves the prides were still in their own territories, now both the Nkuhumas and the Styx have moved south and haven't been seen around Djuma in ages this forces the BB's to push even further south.
It's the other way around.
The prides feel safer to go around more because the Birmingham males have cemented their dominance in that part, not in spite of.
But those prides won't be doing that a lot, because that'd put them in conflict with the Kambula pride, who are very clearly the dominant females in the area and have no problems killing rival females.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Michael - 10-25-2017
(10-24-2017, 11:35 PM)Tshokwane Wrote:How many lionesses does the Kambula pride have ?(10-24-2017, 09:27 PM)Michael Wrote: I say this because despite them being in MalaMala before by themselves the prides were still in their own territories, now both the Nkuhumas and the Styx have moved south and haven't been seen around Djuma in ages this forces the BB's to push even further south.
It's the other way around.
The prides feel safer to go around more because the Birmingham males have cemented their dominance in that part, not in spite of.
But those prides won't be doing that a lot, because that'd put them in conflict with the Kambula pride, who are very clearly the dominant females in the area and have no problems killing rival females.
How much of a factor is the Kambula pride not being under the protection of a stable coalition unlike the Nkuhuma's ?
Wouldn't the sub-adult lionesses and male sway things in favor of the Nkuhuma pride ?
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 10-25-2017
(10-25-2017, 02:17 AM)Michael Wrote: How many lionesses does the Kambula pride have ?
Six, I think.
(10-25-2017, 02:17 AM)Michael Wrote: How much of a factor is the Kambula pride not being under the protection of a stable coalition unlike the Nkuhuma's ?
That depends on whether the males are actually present if they have an interaction. If they are, then the males will most likely side with their females. If not, then the situation changes, because the Kambulas are going to be more familiar with the territory.
(10-25-2017, 02:17 AM)Michael Wrote: Wouldn't the sub-adult lionesses and male sway things in favor of the Nkuhuma pride ?
I'm not sure on their age. Ifd they're old enough then they could add some muscle, but it depends of a lot of factors like how and where they meet.
RE: The Birmingham Males - vinodkumarn - 10-25-2017
(10-25-2017, 06:29 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:Yes, they are 6 of them(10-25-2017, 02:17 AM)Michael Wrote: How many lionesses does the Kambula pride have ?
Six, I think.
(10-25-2017, 02:17 AM)Michael Wrote: How much of a factor is the Kambula pride not being under the protection of a stable coalition unlike the Nkuhuma's ?
That depends on whether the males are actually present if they have an interaction. If they are, then the males will most likely side with their females. If not, then the situation changes, because the Kambulas are going to be more familiar with the territory.
(10-25-2017, 02:17 AM)Michael Wrote: Wouldn't the sub-adult lionesses and male sway things in favor of the Nkuhuma pride ?
I'm not sure on their age. Ifd they're old enough then they could add some muscle, but it depends of a lot of factors like how and where they meet.
They were unfortunate. Initially Matimbas were dominant.
Matshapiris took over and killed cubs. Unfortunately one of them had broken his leg and was never able to recover.
This lead to lone Matshapiri defend. When they were 2, there are instances that they chased atleast 2 BBoys in many instances. (In one instance even 3 BBoys were chased from their territory)
Avocas took the advantage of lone Matshapiri, but they are young and inexperienced and no numbers on their side. They were chased by Majis.
Now both Majis and BBoys showing interest in them. Even Mantimhales ... who knows..
Nkuhuma sub-adults are just little more than 1 year. (Less than 1.5 years)
Kambulas are 6, Nkuhumas are 5.
Kambulas are in their prime, they all are of similar age, little more than 4 year old.
Atleast one of the Nkuhuma is 10 year old and one of the eyes is blind.
I think Kambulas are more strong
RE: The Birmingham Males - Wild Warrior - 10-26-2017
Mfumo ???
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 10-26-2017
Credits to Arie Smit - Nkorho Bush Lodge.
Male #4.
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RE: The Birmingham Males - vinodkumarn - 10-27-2017
Credits: Chene Wales-Baillie AdventureWild
Birmingham Nenha and Tsalala Breakaway young female were seen mating a few days ago. (Sister of Marthly Boys)
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 10-31-2017
Credits to Dylan Leo-Smith - Chitwa Chitwa Private Game Lodge.
Male #2.
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 10-31-2017
Credits to Joel Alves.
Male #4.
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Michael - 11-01-2017
Birmingham Boys - Cheetah Plains Game Reserve
31 Oct 2017
Image by Andrew Khosa
Two of the Birmingham male lions have been feeding on a Cape buffalo they pulled down for the last few days
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 11-02-2017
Credits to Arie Smit - Nkorho.
Male #4.
-Later on we found the adult female Nkuhuma Lions as well as one Birmingham Male Lion, they were all sleeping until a herd of Buffalo bulls showed up. They were quickly spotted though and the Buffalo ran away.
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Lionpower - 11-04-2017
Malamala Game Reserve:
The other sighting that grabbed headlines yesterday involved the Styx pride, 2 Gowrie males and elephants. All 15 lions, including the 4 young cubs, were in the Mlowathi River close to Mlowathi Dam when an elephant bull burst through the bush and came thundering towards them. Naturally, the lions fled in the opposite direction but it was how the 2 males reacted that was remarkable... They waited until the whole pride had passed them and only then retreated a few meters before they turned around, faced the elephant side by side and roared in unison. After this they regrouped with the pride but the elephant charged again and again the reaction was the same. This happened 4 times and every time the males waited for the females and cubs to get behind them. This commotion attracted a large breeding herd of elephants who promptly came barging in and then it was chaos with lions scattering in all directions. Other lions: The Matshapiri male was with 2 Kambula lionesses in front of Main Camp yesterday but today he was replaced by 3 Gowrie males.
BB are good pride males! 3 of them were seen with the 2 Kamula lionesses. Is there a clash with Scar Nose to be expected?