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RE: The Birmingham Males - Fredymrt - 09-26-2017
(09-26-2017, 02:47 AM)Michael Wrote: How do you know ?
And if it isn't who is it then ?
I look at the whisker pattern mostly. The pattern is different on both sides of the face, and is unique to each lion.
Here's an example:
This is the Styx male with a bigger mane
*This image is copyright of its original author
The second Styx male is in the top photo
*This image is copyright of its original author
unknown male in the bottom photo
RE: The Birmingham Males - Wild Warrior - 09-26-2017
I think the description matches with the second male. Since the blue and green dots placed on the whiskers pattern, your eyes will see them only. Observe the two rows of pattern closely, it's not showing that much difference.. May be it's a Styx male. Maybe I'm wrong too...
RE: The Birmingham Males - sik94 - 09-26-2017
Whisker pattern is the best way to match individuals but they are not always completely visible. The whisker pattern fits almost exactly with the second male's picture except for the two missing blue dots which could be covered up by hair or lost by the lack of lighting or something.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Chris - 09-27-2017
It’s is the the Styx male
RE: The Birmingham Males - Chris - 09-27-2017
Where is his other brother?
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tshokwane - 09-27-2017
What you look at is at the spots above the whiskers, those are the particular ones, not necessarily the others.
So on this one I agree with @Fredymrt , I don't think it's either of the Styx males, althoguh he does have a resemblance.
That said, good job for the Birmingham boys.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Fredymrt - 09-27-2017
Here's the story from Chene Wales-Baillie
Blair Sinclair
Chene how many birminghams did he fight was it witnessed? who were the 2 b boys sighted by him if u managed to id them?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"It was 3 Birmingham males that he fought with. Tinyo, Nsuku and Mfumo. Two males came past the lodge roaring like crazy the other night and then next morning we found tracks for males chasing each other everywhere.
We found Nsuku on the same morning with a bit of blood on his face and a few scratches but nothing too serious.
Then we were with the male himself that afternoon (still unknown who he was) when two of the Birmingham males started roaring. So we went to find them and saw Tinyo and Mfumo. Tinyo has a few scratches and bite marks and I never got a very good look at Mfumo. But they aren't badly injured at all.
Unfortunately the unknown male was found dead this morning in the same place. His wounds were just too much and I think he died of blood loss."
Blair Sinclair
Thanks chene shame he didnt make it
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
Very unfortunate but that's the life of a male lion.
Leon Richter
Styx male? It doesn't look like them right?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"No, we thought it may be him as the lower jaw was swollen like the Styx male but turns out he was bitten through the jaw by the Birminghams. Still unknown as to who the male was."
RE: The Birmingham Males - Michael - 09-27-2017
(09-27-2017, 05:10 AM)Fredymrt Wrote: Here's the story from Chene Wales-BaillieWell at least this time the three of them were together but it's the same thing as always, Tynio and Mfumo always together, they then join Nsuku and Nhenha just roams around alone, it's not correct to say lions have personalities but they do have different temperaments, lions act entirely different from one another.
Blair Sinclair
Chene how many birminghams did he fight was it witnessed? who were the 2 b boys sighted by him if u managed to id them?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"It was 3 Birmingham males that he fought with. Tinyo, Nsuku and Mfumo. Two males came past the lodge roaring like crazy the other night and then next morning we found tracks for males chasing each other everywhere.
We found Nsuku on the same morning with a bit of blood on his face and a few scratches but nothing too serious.
Then we were with the male himself that afternoon (still unknown who he was) when two of the Birmingham males started roaring. So we went to find them and saw Tinyo and Mfumo. Tinyo has a few scratches and bite marks and I never got a very good look at Mfumo. But they aren't badly injured at all.
Unfortunately the unknown male was found dead this morning in the same place. His wounds were just too much and I think he died of blood loss."
Blair Sinclair
Thanks chene shame he didnt make it
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
Very unfortunate but that's the life of a male lion.
Leon Richter
Styx male? It doesn't look like them right?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"No, we thought it may be him as the lower jaw was swollen like the Styx male but turns out he was bitten through the jaw by the Birminghams. Still unknown as to who the male was."
RE: The Birmingham Males - sik94 - 09-27-2017
(09-27-2017, 05:54 AM)Michael Wrote:(09-27-2017, 05:10 AM)Fredymrt Wrote: Here's the story from Chene Wales-BaillieWell at least this time the three of them were together but it's the same thing as always, Tynio and Mfumo always together, they then join Nsuku and Nhenha just roams around alone, it's not correct to say lions have personalities but they do have different temperaments, lions act entirely different from one another.
Blair Sinclair
Chene how many birminghams did he fight was it witnessed? who were the 2 b boys sighted by him if u managed to id them?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"It was 3 Birmingham males that he fought with. Tinyo, Nsuku and Mfumo. Two males came past the lodge roaring like crazy the other night and then next morning we found tracks for males chasing each other everywhere.
We found Nsuku on the same morning with a bit of blood on his face and a few scratches but nothing too serious.
Then we were with the male himself that afternoon (still unknown who he was) when two of the Birmingham males started roaring. So we went to find them and saw Tinyo and Mfumo. Tinyo has a few scratches and bite marks and I never got a very good look at Mfumo. But they aren't badly injured at all.
Unfortunately the unknown male was found dead this morning in the same place. His wounds were just too much and I think he died of blood loss."
Blair Sinclair
Thanks chene shame he didnt make it
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
Very unfortunate but that's the life of a male lion.
Leon Richter
Styx male? It doesn't look like them right?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"No, we thought it may be him as the lower jaw was swollen like the Styx male but turns out he was bitten through the jaw by the Birminghams. Still unknown as to who the male was."
nehna is always with nsuku and every so often one of them hangs out with tinyo and mfumo. Recently the birminghams do seem to be spending more time as a trio or all 4 though.
I think this is the first male lion the birminghams have killed. The matimbas pretty much gifted them this territory, they just left. Its kinda crazy how little conflict the birminghams have seen over their life spans.
RE: The Birmingham Males - vinodkumarn - 09-27-2017
Birmingham Boys Mfumo (L) and Tinyo by Chris Gouws.
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: The Birmingham Males - Michael - 09-28-2017
Birmingham/Gowrie Males - MalaMala Game Reserve, Gareth Walker
26 Sept 2017
Then 2 Gowrie males appeared and, after a brief standoff, the Matshipiri male jogged off. The action was far from over as later in the day a herd of buffalo entered the fray and paid the ultimate price. We watched the Gowrie males bring down a bull whilst, 100m away, the Kambula pride brought down a cow.
[video=facebook]http://www.facebook.com/malamalagamereserve/videos/1655251557859795/[/video]
I can't make the video visible here or even a hyperlink what am I doing wrong ?
RE: The Birmingham Males - Fredymrt - 09-28-2017
(09-28-2017, 12:23 AM)Michael Wrote:Copy the last part of the link : 1655251557859795
[video=facebook]http://www.facebook.com/malamalagamereserve/videos/1655251557859795/[/video]
I can't make the video visible here or even a hyperlink what am I doing wrong ?
The number at the end is the only thing you'll need to know about here; it's the video ID in facebook.
Now add this numeric video ID to below link at the last,
Which looks like this :
[video=facebook]https://facebook.com/video.php?v=
1655251557859795[/video]
1655251557859795[/video]
RE: The Birmingham Males - singo - 09-28-2017
(09-27-2017, 05:10 AM)Fredymrt Wrote: Here's the story from Chene Wales-Baillie
Blair Sinclair
Chene how many birminghams did he fight was it witnessed? who were the 2 b boys sighted by him if u managed to id them?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"It was 3 Birmingham males that he fought with. Tinyo, Nsuku and Mfumo. Two males came past the lodge roaring like crazy the other night and then next morning we found tracks for males chasing each other everywhere.
We found Nsuku on the same morning with a bit of blood on his face and a few scratches but nothing too serious.
Then we were with the male himself that afternoon (still unknown who he was) when two of the Birmingham males started roaring. So we went to find them and saw Tinyo and Mfumo. Tinyo has a few scratches and bite marks and I never got a very good look at Mfumo. But they aren't badly injured at all.
Unfortunately the unknown male was found dead this morning in the same place. His wounds were just too much and I think he died of blood loss."
Blair Sinclair
Thanks chene shame he didnt make it
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
Very unfortunate but that's the life of a male lion.
Leon Richter
Styx male? It doesn't look like them right?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"No, we thought it may be him as the lower jaw was swollen like the Styx male but turns out he was bitten through the jaw by the Birminghams. Still unknown as to who the male was."
I'm very curious with the males which fight the Birminghams, but if this males came from kruger and try to expand territory, Could this males which fight the Birminghams is the Mluwati Males? Because i found in this fb page https://www.facebook.com/Mluwati-Male-Lions-124181924619614/ that this coalition dominate the territory in southern imbali, hoyo-hoyo, and hamilton, so i think it is possible if this males came to Birminghams territory, because they territory is not too far.
But that just my assumption..... and maybe not right
Also i want to know from you guys, what coalition whose territory in kruger or outside sabi sands is directly border with birminghams?
RE: The Birmingham Males - Ngala - 09-28-2017
Photo and information credits: WanderingThru
"“There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.” B. Sillis"
*This image is copyright of its original author
"A stunning portrait of a Birmingham boy, the dominant coalition"
*This image is copyright of its original author
"That handsome boy!"
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: The Birmingham Males - stronghold - 09-28-2017
(09-28-2017, 02:05 PM)singo Wrote:I do remember Tristan from safari live talking about the Birminghams are fortunate that before a strong coalition come to Bboys territory they have to past the thanda impi,skybeds and such and such coalition. I am sure some of these guys saw that episode.(09-27-2017, 05:10 AM)Fredymrt Wrote: Here's the story from Chene Wales-Baillie
Blair Sinclair
Chene how many birminghams did he fight was it witnessed? who were the 2 b boys sighted by him if u managed to id them?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"It was 3 Birmingham males that he fought with. Tinyo, Nsuku and Mfumo. Two males came past the lodge roaring like crazy the other night and then next morning we found tracks for males chasing each other everywhere.
We found Nsuku on the same morning with a bit of blood on his face and a few scratches but nothing too serious.
Then we were with the male himself that afternoon (still unknown who he was) when two of the Birmingham males started roaring. So we went to find them and saw Tinyo and Mfumo. Tinyo has a few scratches and bite marks and I never got a very good look at Mfumo. But they aren't badly injured at all.
Unfortunately the unknown male was found dead this morning in the same place. His wounds were just too much and I think he died of blood loss."
Blair Sinclair
Thanks chene shame he didnt make it
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
Very unfortunate but that's the life of a male lion.
Leon Richter
Styx male? It doesn't look like them right?
Chene Wales-Baillie said:
"No, we thought it may be him as the lower jaw was swollen like the Styx male but turns out he was bitten through the jaw by the Birminghams. Still unknown as to who the male was."
I'm very curious with the males which fight the Birminghams, but if this males came from kruger and try to expand territory, Could this males which fight the Birminghams is the Mluwati Males? Because i found in this fb page https://www.facebook.com/Mluwati-Male-Lions-124181924619614/ that this coalition dominate the territory in southern imbali, hoyo-hoyo, and hamilton, so i think it is possible if this males came to Birminghams territory, because they territory is not too far.
But that just my assumption..... and maybe not right
Also i want to know from you guys, what coalition whose territory in kruger or outside sabi sands is directly border with birminghams?