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RE: The Birmingham Males - Tonpa - 02-23-2021
What were the causes of death for the 3 other males? I've been scrolling through and only found scrappers death so far, seems he just died randomly?
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tr1x24 - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 08:37 PM)Tonpa Wrote: What were the causes of death for the 3 other males? I've been scrolling through and only found scrappers death so far, seems he just died randomly?
For Scrapper some say gored by buffaloes, some from some disease.
Mfumo disappeared.
Nsuku leg injury and TB.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tonpa - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 08:44 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(02-23-2021, 08:37 PM)Tonpa Wrote: What were the causes of death for the 3 other males? I've been scrolling through and only found scrappers death so far, seems he just died randomly?
For Scrapper some say gored by buffaloes, some from some disease.
Mfumo disappeared.
Nsuku leg injury and TB.
Thank you.
And wow, he disappeared in sabi sands?
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tr1x24 - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 08:50 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Thank you.
And wow, he disappeared in sabi sands?
Yep, its speculated that he was poached, althrough no evidence.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Potato - 02-25-2021
RE: The Birmingham Males - RookiePundit - 02-25-2021
(02-25-2021, 08:27 PM)Potato Wrote:
There's a glimpse of the airstip, nice, we can pinpoint the location then.
RE: The Birmingham Males - sundarbans - 02-25-2021
How is the legacy of the Birmingham males in Sabi Sands looking like? I got interested in the Sabi Sand lions after reading about the Mapogos and I suspect that the story of the Mapogos is responsible for attracting many people to the Sabi Sand lions. Both the Mapogos and Majingilane have huge fan followings, had long reigns and sired many cubs. But they also had a reign with a lot of lion warfare and killed many other lions. In comparison, the Birmingham males have had a much less bloody reign. Yet they have sired many lions in multiple prides and are still going strong almost six years into their reign. Are they the most successful coalition in recent Sabi Sand history, even more so than the illustrious Mapogos and Majingilanes?
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tr1x24 - 02-25-2021
(02-25-2021, 10:51 PM)sundarbans Wrote: How is the legacy of the Birmingham males in Sabi Sands looking like? I got interested in the Sabi Sand lions after reading about the Mapogos and I suspect that the story of the Mapogos is responsible for attracting many people to the Sabi Sand lions. Both the Mapogos and Majingilane have huge fan followings, had long reigns and sired many cubs. But they also had a reign with a lot of lion warfare and killed many other lions. In comparison, the Birmingham males have had a much less bloody reign. Yet they have sired many lions in multiple prides and are still going strong almost six years into their reign. Are they the most successful coalition in recent Sabi Sand history, even more so than the illustrious Mapogos and Majingilanes?
Majingilanes are still better, but if majority of Kambula subadults make to adulthood, Bboys will be very close..
RE: The Birmingham Males - Potato - 02-25-2021
(02-25-2021, 10:51 PM)sundarbans Wrote: Are they the most successful coalition in recent Sabi Sand historyA lot depends from by what measure you want to judge that.
RE: The Birmingham Males - titose - 02-26-2021
(02-25-2021, 11:31 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:@Tr1x24 I agree with @Potato, it all depends on particular points you take as a deciding factor!(02-25-2021, 10:51 PM)sundarbans Wrote: How is the legacy of the Birmingham males in Sabi Sands looking like? I got interested in the Sabi Sand lions after reading about the Mapogos and I suspect that the story of the Mapogos is responsible for attracting many people to the Sabi Sand lions. Both the Mapogos and Majingilane have huge fan followings, had long reigns and sired many cubs. But they also had a reign with a lot of lion warfare and killed many other lions. In comparison, the Birmingham males have had a much less bloody reign. Yet they have sired many lions in multiple prides and are still going strong almost six years into their reign. Are they the most successful coalition in recent Sabi Sand history, even more so than the illustrious Mapogos and Majingilanes?
Majingilanes are still better, but if majority of Kambula subadults make to adulthood, Bboys will be very close..
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tonpa - 02-26-2021
By Chris Taylor/ Londolozi GR
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Brahim - 03-01-2021
Birmigham Male Tinyo. Two great pictures one new recently, the dark one isn’t recent.
Credit. Zaheer Ali
Dark pic credit: Heinrich Neumeyer
RE: The Birmingham Males - Tr1x24 - 03-06-2021
Nhenha :
RE: The Birmingham Males - Herekitty - 03-12-2021
The powerful old Birmingham males at Ngala in 2010 with a couple of their cubs from the BBoy generation. I assumed that Smudge was the Alpha, but Kinky Tail looks to have the darker mane. Blonde boy in the last shot the splitting image of Nsuku. Images by Ngala Rangers.
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Herekitty - 03-19-2021
I've come to the conclusion that the Tintswalo blog from Thursday, August 23, 2012, which refers to the "3 big Timbavati males" visiting the north of Manyeleti, is clearly the old Birmingham males. The video of the kinky tailed male is nearly identical to the photo of the kinky tailed male in the post above. The photos are also of this male, and the fact that he is the one mating with the Koppies female gives further weight to the idea that he was the dominant of the three old Birminghams.
Lion Politics - The plot thickens!
Our reserve is a very confusing place at the moment as far as our lions are concerned! In this part of the Greater Kruger National Park massive coalitions of male lions wreak havoc in the lion population creating a forthcoming spectacle that will not be for the faint hearted.
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One of these coalitions is known as the Skybeds males. They were named after a dam in the north eastern part of the reserve where they were sighted first about nine months ago. At this first sighting we found nine males together but kept hearing reports that to the east as many as twelve have been seen together. These males mostly move in the northern parts of the reserve and into the Orpen section of the Kruger National Park. With the six Matimba males in the south, the two Sizanani males in the central area and now these males coming in from the north, a mega showdown is on the horizon.
With all these males around, females are finding it increasingly difficult to raise their cubs. Males they mate with are usually part of one of the larger coalitions. Their cubs are either killed by the other coalitions or another male from the same coalition who doesn’t know the cubs. As it is we regularly see eight females and as many as 22 males - a very lopsided ratio!
There is another coalition comprising of three very large males that also roam the north. This is now where this story gets very interesting. We recently got a report from one of the Mpumalanga Parks Rangers that six males and a female were not far from where we were. As this was to the north we reckoned it could only be the Skybeds and off we went to have a look.
Alfred and I decided to walk in and track them. It was fairly windy day and the conditions weren’t the best for tracking but as it’s all in the job we decided to go off anyway. We quickly found what we were looking for when we noticed places where they had laid down and identified some tracks. After about 20 minutes of tracking we heard the unmistakable sound of a lion growling. Being windy we couldn’t pinpoint their exact location and allowed better judgement to take over. We moved in the opposite direction all the while trying to determine their location. Knowing we’ve done some very good work, we collected the guests and the vehicle, proudly told them our story and started making our way to where we heard the growling.
Upon arrival, we realised that the lioness was not growling at us, but rather at one of the males. They were clearly mating! We saw the other males lying in the thick grass, but it was the honeymoon couple that grabbed our attention. We settled down and waited.
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The big male got up and meandered towards the lioness. She looked like one of the Koppies lionesses and as it was right in the middle their territory we thought it must be a Koppies girl! The male was very distinctive. It looked like there was a knot in his tail. This was clearly not one of the Skybeds males originally seen, but possibly part of another coalition we know as the Timbavati males comprising of three males! Could these three be the other three males seen to the east with the Skybeds? They’re bigger and older than the others but could very well be. They were with another three males but most were unfortunately sleeping in thick grass, so getting a picture and confirming their identity was impossible.
After about five minutes our patience was rewarded as the male got on the top of his business. We watched these two lovebirds mate as only lions can and after about fifteen seconds the show was over.
Only time will tell if these males will settle down and tend the females and future cubs, protecting them from the menace in the south - The mighty Matimbas.
-Darren Roberts-York