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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-04-2015
A 17 inches fossilized skull of the Barbary lion, and I think we might re-evaluate the size of this animal, since it looks as large as the Cave lion.
http://www.dinolandplus.com/animal-index/view/category/lions
@peter @tigerluver @Majingilane
RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GuateGojira - 08-09-2015
(08-04-2015, 10:57 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: A 17 inches fossilized skull of the Barbary lion, and I think we might re-evaluate the size of this animal, since it looks as large as the Cave lion.
http://www.dinolandplus.com/animal-index/view/category/lions
@peter @tigerluver @Majingilane
The measurements are incorrect, check that the "17 inches" length was taken over the curve of the skull, not in a straight line like the measurements of Zoologists like Pocock or Mazák, among others:
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This is NOT how a skull most be measured. So, the 17 inches size is unreliable and an exaggeration of the salesman and the "Dinoland Plus" webpage.
Check also this: "WOW Unbelievable Entire Barbary Coast Early Unknown Extinct Lion Huge Skull 17” Long x 9.5” wide."
How is possible that a skull with a greatest length of 432 mm could have a wide of only 241 mm??? The largest modern lion skull ever reported measured 17 inches (432 mm) in length had a wide of 11 1/16 inches (281 mm), quoted from Rowland Ward (1914).
So, in conclusion, this skull is incorrectly measured, and as we can see, the size seems just a copy-paste from the report of the giant lion of Rowland Ward, which by the way, was not corroborated by him and is only a "owner's measurement" and is not quoted like record in scientific files.
This "Dinoland Plus" page data is 100% inaccurate in the size issue and only hence the myth of the "giant" Barbary lions, which in fact were no larger than the East African population.
RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-12-2015
This is how a big male leopard's fang looks like.
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-12-2015
Clouded leopard
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-12-2015
The tiger canine and bear canine are a little older than 200 BC and were probably from the southern Manchuria.
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-12-2015
Snow leopard
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-25-2015
Amur tiger (sub-adult)
The root part looks very smooth which means there is a cavity inside, while a fully solid canine tooth would have very rough texture.
All young specimens would have the cavity inside of their canine teeth, only the older specimens got the fully solid ones.
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-27-2015
Amur tiger
This one is an older specimen with the rough texture, so the canine tooth is fully solid and heavier.
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-27-2015
Jaguar
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GuateGojira - 08-28-2015
That jaguar was small, put still check how wide are its canines.
RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-28-2015
Proportionally, the jaguar has the most robust built canine teeth of all big cats.
You can also check the large leopard canine teeth from the previous posts, it is about the same size as the jaguar's canine teeth, but it is much more gracile in comparison.
RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-28-2015
Another young captive Amur tiger specimen with the cavity inside of its canine teeth.
This canine tooth measures up to 13 cm and weighs 90.6 grams, and it would have weighed over 120 grams with such great thickness as an older specimen.
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-28-2015
Massive Amur tiger canine teeth
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-29-2015
Amur tiger
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RE: Big Cat's Canines and Claws - GrizzlyClaws - 08-29-2015
Bengal tiger
I previous mislabelled it as the African lion, it is a wild specimen, damn those poachers!
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