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Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Siegfried - 07-03-2015 Looks like this would be a nice place to visit. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Selachimorpha11 - 07-03-2015 Is Black Jaguar and Panther are the same? they look so alike -__- RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Siegfried - 07-03-2015 Panther is sort of a generic term for any medium sized cat. Leopards, pumas, and jaguars are all referred to as panthers sometimes. Black versions of leopards and jaguars are often called "black" panthers as if they were a separate species. What they really are is simply a color variation of two different species. Often you can see the spottting pattern of the cat through the overall darkened fur. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Pckts - 07-05-2015 I've posted tons of his videos and images in the captive thread. Eduardo is a great man who saves a lot of these cats from Circus situations, Frankie one of is Male Tigers is a cat you should look up. He was so skinny when BJWT got him, aggressive and never felt grass, he put on 300lbs and has a female with him now. He puts all his females on Birth control and he loves them all so much. Lions are his favorite and Tigers are his least favorite, as he puts it, "they bite" and he thinks jags are lb for lb the best fighters. The only knock I have on him is that he puts his life at risk seemingly unnecessarily, wath the video with Him and Taxinia (tabby male tiger) that tiger playful grabs his foot and you can see how that might turn in to something more. But other than that, he is awesome. Join his FB and IG pages, they're great. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Siegfried - 07-06-2015 @Pckts, I'm becoming a bit suspicious of the REAL motivation of this guy. After seeing the puma cubs in a recent video of his menagerie, I started to question how he REALLY came about obtaining his cats...particularly all the cubs. He even has the rarer (yet widely popular) white lion and white tiger cubs. Most "rescues" have older cats with nowhere else to go. Perhaps this guy has created a nice little lucrative raquet for himself and just maybe his seemingly philanthropic motives have been compromised a little. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Pckts - 07-06-2015 (07-06-2015, 06:10 PM)'Siegfried' Wrote: @Pckts, I'm becoming a bit suspicious of the REAL motivation of this guy. After seeing the puma cubs in a recent video of his menagerie, I started to question how he REALLY came about obtaining his cats...particularly all the cubs. He even has the rarer (yet widely popular) white lion and white tiger cubs. Most "rescues" have older cats with nowhere else to go. Perhaps this guy has created a nice little lucrative raquet for himself and just maybe his seemingly philanthropic motives have been compromised a little. I doubt it, he just received a huge shipment of adult lions and tigers from the Circus, Franky, Voltan, King Lotus, Leo, Taxinia, (all normal colored adult tigers and lions outside of tabby taxinia) and the list goes on of adult big cats he has rescued from the circus and zoo, he receives cubs as well but he finds home for as many as he can. When a circus is confiscated or zoo, they have to fight very hard to be the ones to receive the big cats, they are shipped nation wide to many sanctuaries and rehabilition centers. The reason he is able to receive white lion or white tiger cubs is because there are more of them in captivity than ever before, they need rescueing as much as any others. I truly suggest you look up his center, see how much he does for them, his amazing rescue stories and his fight with the mexican gov't to rescue these cats that were going to be put down. Mexico just passed a no circus law and these cats have no where else to go, he is a savior to them. Most importantly, he doesn't breed any of them. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Pckts - 07-06-2015 His facility isn't even public, he doesn't seem to care about tourism, just animal well being. Here is his mission statement:
Heres a few of the big cats they have rescued and the stories as to how/why they got them. http://www.blackjaguarwhitetiger.org/felines--black-jaguar-white-tiger-foundation.html I also take back how dangerous it was to go in the cage with taxiania, apparenetly the Tabby tiger is missing all his fangs and many teeth, so Eduarado probably knows its ok to be in there with him. Still a risk, but not as bad I guess. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Siegfried - 07-06-2015 Thanks for the info. I'm glad to find that his motives are pure and that he is not just another exploiter. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Sully - 05-26-2016 thoughts? http://911animalabuse.com/black-jaguar-white-tiger/ Read the comments too, seems he has skeletons in his closet... RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Pckts - 05-26-2016 That was a huge slander move by a couple of the "sanctuaries" a while back, he absolutely destroyed them already. The most recent claim was him not being licensed as a "wildlife sanctuary" which he already posted his licensing and threatened to sue them if they didn't take it down immediately, Which of course they did. Before that it was a claim that he was breeding which he has never done or that he was exploiting the cats, in fact he was a huge part of the illegalization of circus cats being used in Mexico and all of his big cats are on birth control another claim was from another competing sanctuary owner which he immediately called out and showed that she in fact was the prime suspect in her husbands murder and how her cages were absolutely atrocious. It's sad that these sanctuaries resort to this, its political nonsense because he is taking their meal tickets away from them. Do yourself a favor and spend a day looking through his IG and FB pages, he makes all of these claims public and provides proof to back them all. I for one feel that these cats are extremely lucky that someone like him exists, he has the resources and the means to bring attention to these cats and he does so in a spectacular way. He makes it public that on the issues that matter he feels this way -No captive cats should ever be bred unless for a reintroduction to wild -No animals should perform in the circus, it's extremely cruel -No private facilities should be allowed to keep wild animals -The wild is the only place these cats belong His most used #'s #NoPets #boycottcircus The best part about his facility is this, he doesn't need any money so he doesn't allow the public to come, he allows celebrities because celebrities bring attention and that is why he has over 6 million followers on his page. Sorry for the long response I just really respect what he's doing and I have seen this time and time again and every single time, he confronts the bs and shows them to be absolute liars and you never hear from them again. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - brotherbear - 05-26-2016 (05-26-2016, 03:58 AM)SVTIGRIS Wrote: thoughts? I would like to add that it serves no purpose to breed unusual animals. I know that black jaguars are not unknown in the wild, but big cats and other wild animals should not be bred merely for "interesting" colors or other attributes as in breeding domestic cats and dogs. Big cats such as "ligers" are being bred in some zoos; a good example is http://www.tigerworld.us/ RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Pckts - 05-26-2016 The reason ligers were so common is because they neither fall under a tiger not a lion and thus they did not suffer under the same regulations and thus people irresponsibly bred them to the point where they are all over the place. Bjwt has one liger that arrived with its 2 tiger and one lion sibling. But what bjwt does that so great is they rescue 100s of older circus performing big cats that would of surely been put down. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Siegfried - 01-28-2019 This is unexpected. RE: Black Jaguar-White Tiger Foundation - Pckts - 01-28-2019 (01-28-2019, 02:17 PM)Siegfried Wrote: This is unexpected. Not really, he's said it before. Neither Alcyone or Atzlan look like pure amurs, same with any of his other tigers he has and all of them are rescues from circuses and sanctuaries in Mexico so I have doubts about that. Regardless though he has some large Tigers and his Lions are still larger so that should definitely give people something to think about. I'm not sure why his lions are larger than his tigers, he doesnt have a cat larger than 250kg in the entire Bjwt so it's not like he has monsters of any species, the largest weights he's had were between 220-230kg and Luke, Han, Alcyone and Ali are all there when they were weighed. I've certainly seen Tigers be larger than Lions in the same sanctuaries and vice versa and same in the wild. But regardless his cats are well maintained and healthy so that's all that matters. |