• Was born in September 1998 at the Indianapolis Zoo
• Is considered geriatric (elderly) at age 18
• Had cataract surgery in both eyes in February 2010
• Is “small” compared to other male lions, weighing “only” 305 pounds
• Has reduced vision in both eyes, but can see movement and shapes
  

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(09-27-2017, 10:01 PM)Garfield Wrote: I thought y'all new that, I mean a lot a male tigers are neutered, lions ain't that much cuz theyd lose the mane.  A
 


I'll contact some of the lion guys about Jaipur, Im not 100% sure if its neutered, but i thought it was, Assad or Counter might know.  Maybe ask the trainer or email her, she would probally tell you.  Cats just dont gain weight like that in the stomach the way jaipur is unless hes neutered, i mean like not that much.

Here's a big neutered bro at Sarasota.

(09-28-2017, 03:06 AM)Garfield Wrote:

(09-27-2017, 10:56 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(09-27-2017, 10:01 PM)Garfield Wrote: I thought y'all new that, I mean a lot a male tigers are neutered, lions ain't that much cuz theyd lose the mane.  A
 


I'll contact some of the lion guys about Jaipur, Im not 100% sure if its neutered, but i thought it was, Assad or Counter might know.  Maybe ask the trainer or email her, she would probally tell you.  Cats just dont gain weight like that in the stomach the way jaipur is unless hes neutered, i mean like not that much.

Here's a big neutered bro at Sarasota.

You mean a lot of "N. american Tigers" used in "sanctuaries" are neutered, don't you?

Sanctuaries don't breed, buy, sell or trade animals, Zoos do. Then there is also the difference between accredited and unaccredited zoos. (AZA Grants) are only offered to Zoo's that meet certain standards, Roadside zoos or sanctuaries don't operate under these specific requirements, especially not roadside zoo's which are nothing more than average people who purchased exotic wildlife irresponsibly. International Zoos

Amnon has done a wonderful job of posting 100s of in tact tigers and lions from many Zoo's same w/Betty.
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-zoos-circuses-safaris-a-gallery-of-captivity?page=10

Hey dude is that a question or a lecture.  I told you bros months ago that i was gonna step up my game an get into some studyin bout these cats.  Well I done it, just like I said.  Cant ya tell.  Just lookin fo some respect here, wanna keep everything here nice and fair and accurate.

Now as far as the zoos and the bigcat places, I never went to some road side zoo, dont no bout those.  The place I went to they said they don't neuter the cats there, they dont believe it, they said they think its wrong because its not natural.

NOw, as far as that place you went to, Lions tigers and da bears, they said they neuter them cats, big time.  But the lion Bakari was not neutered cuz he have that mane, and you have to keep that bro.  Bakari was heavier than all the tigers, but he small.  I think it depends on the place, but fo sure trainers that have to work with them for shows they might have to eliminate the dangerous aggresion.

Now as far as Janipur, dont know yet, I think the things neutered, I mean it just looks it, cuz it has all that fat collecting down low on the belly, an that just not natural.  Not all them neutered boys get that fat, but if they stuff them, they will get fatter than any normal tiger or lion ever could. Because the pounds stay on you, its like a guy who just eats an eats, an sits around on the porch, an like his matabolism slows, so then the pounds just collect an they just dont come off till he can change that metab an then his body starts burning things naturally on its own.  But ya gut a get up an move, an build some muscle an testosterone, them neutered cats have no testosterone, so they cant burn no fat.

(09-28-2017, 08:54 AM)Garfield Wrote:

(09-28-2017, 06:01 AM)paul cooper Wrote:

(09-28-2017, 03:06 AM)Garfield Wrote:

(09-27-2017, 10:56 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(09-27-2017, 10:01 PM)Garfield Wrote: I thought y'all new that, I mean a lot a male tigers are neutered, lions ain't that much cuz theyd lose the mane.  A
 


I'll contact some of the lion guys about Jaipur, Im not 100% sure if its neutered, but i thought it was, Assad or Counter might know.  Maybe ask the trainer or email her, she would probally tell you.  Cats just dont gain weight like that in the stomach the way jaipur is unless hes neutered, i mean like not that much.

Here's a big neutered bro at Sarasota.

You mean a lot of "N. american Tigers" used in "sanctuaries" are neutered, don't you?

Sanctuaries don't breed, buy, sell or trade animals, Zoos do. Then there is also the difference between accredited and unaccredited zoos. (AZA Grants) are only offered to Zoo's that meet certain standards, Roadside zoos or sanctuaries don't operate under these specific requirements, especially not roadside zoo's which are nothing more than average people who purchased exotic wildlife irresponsibly. International Zoos

Amnon has done a wonderful job of posting 100s of in tact tigers and lions from many Zoo's same w/Betty.
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-zoos-circuses-safaris-a-gallery-of-captivity?page=10

Hey dude is that a question or a lecture.  I told you bros months ago that i was gonna step up my game an get into some studyin bout these cats.  Well I done it, just like I said.  Cant ya tell.  Just lookin fo some respect here, wanna keep everything here nice and fair and accurate.

Now as far as the zoos and the bigcat places, I never went to some road side zoo, dont no bout those.  The place I went to they said they don't neuter the cats there, they dont believe it, they said they think its wrong because its not natural.

NOw, as far as that place you went to, Lions tigers and da bears, they said they neuter them cats, big time.  But the lion Bakari was not neutered cuz he have that mane, and you have to keep that bro.  Bakari was heavier than all the tigers, but he small.  I think it depends on the place, but fo sure trainers that have to work with them for shows they might have to eliminate the dangerous aggresion.

Now as far as Janipur, dont know yet, I think the things neutered, I mean it just looks it, cuz it has all that fat collecting down low on the belly, an that just not natural.  Not all them neutered boys get that fat, but if they stuff them, they will get fatter than any normal tiger or lion ever could. Because the pounds stay on you, its like a guy who just eats an eats, an sits around on the porch, an like his matabolism slows, so then the pounds just collect an they just dont come off till he can change that metab an then his body starts burning things naturally on its own.  But ya gut a get up an move, an build some muscle an testosterone, them neutered cats have no testosterone, so they cant burn no fat.

Maybe you should step up your grammar..

Bakari? What? lol Bakari is an exception.

Quote:No bro, I dont recall hearing about the effects of testosterone from you.  But I no this, your wrong about neutered cats weighing less, everyone knows if you over feed the neutered ones, they will pack on the pounds and it wont just come off.  Tigers dont exist as heavy as Jaipur in the wild, because theyre not neutered.  An these sanctuaries dont over feed the cats whether theyre neutered or not bro.  You know how much money that will cost ya?  That lady that owned Jaipur was some kind of trainer, she probably worked with that thing, an she neutered  it so it was safer for handling then she stuffed it to set a record.  There was a non neutered lion named Brutus that hit 900lbs, its on Starfox's site, Id have to get the link from him, but he hasnt gotten back to me yet on whether Jaipur is neutered, I would say this.  Ask the trainer, or show a pic of the tigers balls.  I bet it doest have any. 

An can you tell me the name of the white tiger that you think was as robust as Bakari, or show a pic of him?  I want a check this out, I bet it wasn't.  Bakari looks small in the videos you see an in the pics you showed.  Bonedigger has stunted growth, an he weighs 500lbs.  Lions weigh more for their size, or at least they often can.  An yeah bro, no kiddin tigers are usually longer an stuff an sometimes taller, happens all the time in these places, they have Siberian mixed in most all of them.

"You know how much money that will cost ya?" That is irrelevant and that kind of logic cannot be used in this... I can afford a pet tiger..

"That lady that owned Jaipur was some kind of trainer, she probably worked with that thing, an she neutered  it so it was safer for handling then she stuffed it to set a record."
Really? Is this the only thing you can come up with? Also, You are contradicting yourself.. Look what you just said the sentence before: "You know how much money that will cost ya?" You know how much money it will cost her?..
There is no proof that Brutus hit 900 lbs, It was most likely an over exaggeration. (Or just plain propaganda) In Starfoxes "evidence" it shows a pic of the lion in a cage and it doesn't look too big..

Bonedigger? Bonedigger is neutered and was never weighed.. Big lions are an exception.

Huh, I could of sworn somebody just made no sense whatsoever.   Bro think before you speak man.  Sancturaries cannot afford to over feed 100 different lions and tigers.  But one trainer can afford to over feed one fat neutered tiger.  You gettin that?  If she wants to over feed Jaipur she could, but she couldn't over feed 50 Jaipurs, dats da point bro. 

No proof Brutus hit 900lbs, really, well theres proof he hit 870lbs, thats close enough for me.  Theres not just a pic bro, there is link there to I believe, it was weighed in court.  An yes most all cats are weighed by the Vets, Bonedigger was said to be 500lbs, hes not neutered.

Barcroft TV states hes 500lbs right here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1BvtJ8ktB4