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How come there are no recent Tiger Predation on adult rhino accounts recently? - faess - 05-16-2015

After that incident in 2010-2011 event of a Tiger killing an adult female rhino, there has been no other recent account of a Tiger killing an adult rhino. And so concludes this question, How can a Tiger kill a female rhino? Every tiger killing adult rhino  incident never involves a description on how A tiger predates on a big rhino


RE: How come there are no recent Tiger Predation on adult rhino accounts recently? - Pckts - 05-17-2015

(05-16-2015, 08:53 AM)'faess' Wrote: After that incident in 2010-2011 event of a Tiger killing an adult female rhino, there has been no other recent account of a Tiger killing an adult rhino. And so concludes this question, How can a Tiger kill a female rhino? Every tiger killing adult rhino  incident never involves a description on how A tiger predates on a big rhino

 
What is the point of this?
To try and discredit the tiger?
You have already seen predation accounts on full grown rhino, period.
Its already extremely rare, so the fact that there hasn't been a new one to your knowledge means what exactly?
None of us live in Kaziranga, the only place that even has Rhino any more and we have no idea what predation occurs there. Its extremely harsh terrain and hardly viewable, in fact there is probably 2 actual instances of predation even occuring there.

LUCKNOW: Have Dudhwa tigers shunned their preferred prey - the cheetals and sambhars - to hunt the mighty rhinos? The killing of a 35-year-old female rhino by a tiger in Dudhwa national park and the subsequent eating of the carcass has raised a doubt if the behaviour of Dudhwa tigers is changing. The experts are not ready to buy the argument that the declining prey base is the reason why tigers are hunting and eating rhinos.

"If tiger population in the park is increasing, prey base can not decline," said Tito Joseph from the wildlife protection society of India ( WPSI). The tiger sneaked into the rhino rehabilitation area to kill the 35-year-old female rhino Pavitri, brought to Dudhwa in 1984 under the rhino rehabilitation programme. This was the fifth attack since November last year on rhinos by tigers in Dudhwa. In the past one year, two rhinos have been killed by tigers and one has rescued by the park administration in Dudhwa. The feline attacks on rhinos aren't rare. But, in most of the incidents, it's the cubs which are killed.

Contrary to this, it was an adult female rhino killed this time. Is it the same tiger which is killing rhinos? Is the attacking feline old? Bibhav Taluqdar, who chairs International Union for Conservation of Nature Asian rhino specialist group, said Dudhwa authorities should try to find answers to such questions in case the attacks are rampant. "It's not rare that tigers kill and eat rhino. Rhino comes as an easy hunt for a tiger who can not chase a deer," he said
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/Rhinos-new-preys-for-Dudhwa-tigers/articleshow/18282354.cms

From 2013...



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These occurrred after 2011 and my point is this....
It's unbelievably hard to even capture a kill of a tiger, period. Factor in the rarest of kills to a place that is extremely hard to view and its probably 1 in 1000s of odds to capture. So instead of trying to discredit actual events and capabilities of Tigers why don't you just enjoy the photos that are present and the new ones to come.
Like the people who tried to say Tigers couldn't prey on Gaur and refused it until the Raja video surfaced, it will only get you in trouble.

I did the same thing with Lone Lion predation on Bull buffalo which still hasn't been proven but I certainly don't doubt that a lone lion could do it, I know what they are capable of.


 


RE: How come there are no recent Tiger Predation on adult rhino accounts recently? - faess - 05-17-2015

I just want to know how a tiger can kill a full grown rhino. There hasn't been any details on how they kill them. Kill via the visual neck bite? Kinda unrealstic. Was the rhino sick, or was it somehow vulnerable to being hunted etc etc. I think its possible, but some details would be nice


RE: How come there are no recent Tiger Predation on adult rhino accounts recently? - Pckts - 05-17-2015

I would assume like all animals, it depends on the situation. My guess is a considerable battle lasting all day if need be, attacks on the hind quarters, multiple gashes, attack the rear legs, wear down the big animal over a period of time and probably start consuming it while its still alive.
You want these "details" but you're not accepting the fact that its almost impossible to capture the entire event. To give details would require a eye witness from the very begining to the very end, parks open and close, people can't just freely walk around with a camera all day and night and go wherever they please, it doesn't work like that.

Here is as first hand as you can get....

Siddharth SinghFriends Of Dudhwa Follow · June 27, 2014 ·    ·   Re-introduction of Rhinos to Dudhwa has indirectly helped increase pray base for Dudhwa Tigers who with time have claimed many Adult Rhinos in the past few years,one of the shot from a series of 105 photos that i was able to get for the first time at Dudhwa Rhino Area,it is common for Tigers to kill Rhinos in parks of Assam and Nepal,here is proof for those critics of mine and Dudhwa who have indirectly pushed me to work harder to prove my points,i hope my photos from Dudhwa in 2013-14 will help in understanding that a lot of hard work has to be put in to get one such shot how difficult it is to save them only those who are working at ground level will understand,Sorry for bad water mark but had to protect image

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So you now have proof of attacks occuring with dead rhinos, you have a wildlife filmographer reporting it, images of a tiger obviously thinking about predation on a full grown Rhino...
Etc.
Seems pretty good if you ask me, Im sure one day we will get the long drawn out battle but who knows when. Its so rare and almost impossible, its going to have to be the luckiest person alive, i think.


RE: How come there are no recent Tiger Predation on adult rhino accounts recently? - chaos - 05-17-2015

(05-17-2015, 12:59 AM)'faess' Wrote: I just want to know how a tiger can kill a full grown rhino. There hasn't been any details on how they kill them. Kill via the visual neck bite? Kinda unrealstic. Was the rhino sick, or was it somehow vulnerable to being hunted etc etc. I think its possible, but some details would be nice

 

Old or sick individuals. Its just not realistic any other way. Big cats can sense when potential prey is
vulnerable (old,injured etc.). Along with the tigers formidable hunting skillset, theres your equation